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| Author: | sapocrd [ Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Liberty CRD turbo questions |
Hey all, I have a 06 Liberty CRD with about 160,000 miles. I've been getting an over-boost code P0234. I've checked the hoses, inter-cooler, MAP etc, long story short there is only about 1/8" movement on the vane actuator arm thing when I disconnect the vacuum line. so my questions are- Can I reliably open the turbo and clean the vanes? Is it worth it with 160k miles? I did try the oven cleaner trick with no positive results. Any opinions/reviews on the cheaper none Garrett turbos? Any opinion on the "upgraded" turbo from Sasquach Parts? thanks for any input |
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| Author: | flash7210 [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
When you did the oven cleaner thing, did you remove the turbo from the engine? It might be worth removing the turbo and spraying some PBblaster (or something) inside and on the linkage. Then try to work it by hand to see if it frees up some more. Also inspect the shaft for excessive play. The best replacement turbo is a NEW one from Garrett. The Sasquatch one seems pretty good but its a fairly new release so no idea about longevity. If it were me and I needed a turbo, I would get the Sasquatch. |
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| Author: | mass-hole [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
flash7210 wrote: When you did the oven cleaner thing, did you remove the turbo from the engine? It might be worth removing the turbo and spraying some PBblaster (or something) inside and on the linkage. Then try to work it by hand to see if it frees up some more. Also inspect the shaft for excessive play. The best replacement turbo is a NEW one from Garrett. The Sasquatch one seems pretty good but its a fairly new release so no idea about longevity. If it were me and I needed a turbo, I would get the Sasquatch. I agree, I would go Sasquatch too for a stock replacement. |
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| Author: | sapocrd [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
thanks guys. I kinda feel that with the miles, if I am going to take the turbo off, i will just replace it instead of cleaning and putting back. hopefully it will hold up until after the holidays. |
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| Author: | flash7210 [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
sapocrd wrote: thanks guys. I kinda feel that with the miles, if I am going to take the turbo off, i will just replace it instead of cleaning and putting back. hopefully it will hold up until after the holidays. If you get a new one, dont throw the old one away. Someone here might have a need for it. |
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| Author: | mass-hole [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
I would consider buying it off you if it's not too much. |
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| Author: | GordnadoCRD [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
Finished installing the Sasquatch turbo on my project tonight. As it's on a lift with good access as needed from above and below, nearly everything was straightforward, ......except one. The one big (little) thing that should be improved, is the mounting method of the turbo oil return. It would save potentially many hours and thousands of curse words, if there were studs installed with loctite red, and nuts / lockwashers to fasten the drain mounting flange. Got'er done with the provided equipment, but only because I'm too darn stubborn to give up and go get the studs I was wishing for. |
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| Author: | joe_ [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
GordnadoCRD wrote: Finished installing the Sasquatch turbo on my project tonight. As it's on a lift with good access as needed from above and below, nearly everything was straightforward, ......except one. The one big (little) thing that should be improved, is the mounting method of the turbo oil return. It would save potentially many hours and thousands of curse words, if there were studs installed with loctite red, and nuts / lockwashers to fasten the drain mounting flange. Got'er done with the provided equipment, but only because I'm too darn stubborn to give up and go get the studs I was wishing for. ^^ This!! Stupid thing doesn't quite line up with the holes on the turbo, so once one bolt is installed, good luck getting the other one in! I spent HOURS trying and trying from above and below; no luck. I finally ended up grabbing this cheap, crappy USB boroscope I bought a few months earlier on eBay, connecting it to my laptop, and using that to look up the bolt hole on the return line's bracket only to see that it was nowhere near lined up with the threaded hole on the turbo. Had to shove a flathead screwdriver between the side of the bracket and the compressor housing to move the bracket over and get it lined up.My oil return line is solid metal tubing from the turbo to the engine block, but I've noticed the one idparts carries has a flexible braided section, which would make the job way easier. Sucker's expensive, but if I ever have to remove the thing again, I'll probably replace it with one of those. |
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| Author: | flash7210 [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
Quote: I've noticed the one idparts carries has a flexible braided section, which would make the job way easier Its only slightly easier. |
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| Author: | jws84_02 [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
Call me crazy but after doing 8 head gaskets now I don't mind the drain tube. Sure it's a pain but have just got in a good routine and it's not so bad now for me |
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| Author: | joe_ [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
I guess if you know from the start what needs to be done in order to get the holes lined up... BTW, any tips for removing the old return line gasket from the bottom of the turbo? I got it done with enough time, patience, and some gasket remover, but I figure it might be helpful to the OP if they end up pulling the turbo and cleaning the vanes. Not much space to get in there between the turbine and compressor housings! |
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| Author: | jws84_02 [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
joe_ wrote: I guess if you know from the start what needs to be done in order to get the holes lined up... BTW, any tips for removing the old return line gasket from the bottom of the turbo? I got it done with enough time, patience, and some gasket remover, but I figure it might be helpful to the OP if they end up pulling the turbo and cleaning the vanes. Not much space to get in there between the turbine and compressor housings! I typically check the condition of it and re use the original if not harmed. If harmed, I just use a standard screw driver to scrape it off. |
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| Author: | sapocrd [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
Again thanks everyone! If I end up changing it out I'll put the old one up. So was the conclusion that the flex oil line is worth it or not? Sasquach sells an install kit with both lines, one is flexible but it's kinda pricey. Worth it, will I need all that stuff or can I reuse the original stuff? The CRD gets to take us on a long road trip this Christmas, cross your fingers it lasts. |
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| Author: | jws84_02 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
I'd save your money. Not to freak you out but either drain tune is a pain to the first timer. Just be patient and try not to use too many swear words |
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| Author: | peteyz24 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Liberty CRD turbo questions |
Being that it is just a drain line. One could just cut a section out of it and hose clamp a piece of oil resistant rubber hose on to make it flexible. May not be as pretty but would only cost a few bucks. |
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