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Author:  Sir Sam [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
CRD #3 needs a turbo. Wanting to get something ordered so I can get it back on the road.

Looking at a Stigan from amazon or Sasquatch turbo.


Sasquatch is $250 more + shipping and looks like it has an upgraded compressor wheel. Otherwise it visually looks like the Stigan.

Leaning towards Stigan from amazon since its cheaper and can be here Monday. Thoughts?
Author:  undrgnd [ Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
I've not had to replace a turbo (yet) nor do I know anything about stigan but i do know that every sasquatch product I have received has been of good quality. Good response time from the team and fast delivery. Can't ask for much more than that. So when mine does go, I will go straight to them for the new one.

Good luck
Author:  Mountainman [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
Where's it made? I've heard of a few bad Chinese ones, and I have personally seen one Chinese turbo fail very quickly, although I didn't install it
Author:  Sir Sam [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
Mountainman wrote:
Where's it made? I've heard of a few bad Chinese ones, and I have personally seen one Chinese turbo fail very quickly, although I didn't install it


Not sure on either. Sasquatch looks like an upgraded stigan. No idea where stigan is made, but there is good manufacturing in the US and China, bad manufacturing too.
Author:  Ceearedeedriver [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
The Stigan has been bought up a few times here and at least a couple of owners have installed and not come back with stories of disaster.

Weeks101 is on the record here for stating that his turbo is not an upgraded Stigan.
Author:  Sir Sam [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
Ceearedeedriver wrote:
The Stigan has been bought up a few times here and at least a couple of owners have installed and not come back with stories of disaster.

Weeks101 is on the record here for stating that his turbo is not an upgraded Stigan.


I did see his comment where he said it was not a stigan, though I cannot find any other information on who the manufacturer is.
Author:  mass-hole [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
I thought the Sasquatch turbo might have been an upgraded stigan too, but when I suggested that in another thread weeks101 posted and said it was not.
Author:  weeks101 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
I don't know anything about Stigan or their products. We partner with a reputable US-based turbo supplier who manufactures the turbos for us.

These are the main advantages to our offering:

- Upgraded to a larger center shaft with 360° thrust bearing, which distributes and supports the complete thrust load placed on the shaft, whereas the OE turbo 270° thrust bearing covers only a portion of the shaft.
- Modified center section to prevent oil coking issues with the OE turbo.
- Added a CNC billet compressor wheel, which offers increased airflow at a given boost pressure, resulting in faster turbo spool, lower EGTs, and provides superior surge resistance compared to the OE cast wheel.
- 1-year manufacturer’s warranty.


I personally have been running this turbo on my daily driver for about a year with no issues. I depend on this vehicle for transporting my 3 year old son safely and for running business operations, so reliability is hugely important.
Author:  jws84_02 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
weeks101 wrote:
I don't know anything about Stigan or their products. We partner with a reputable US-based turbo supplier who manufactures the turbos for us.

These are the main advantages to our offering:

- Upgraded to a larger center shaft with 360° thrust bearing, which distributes and supports the complete thrust load placed on the shaft, whereas the OE turbo 270° thrust bearing covers only a portion of the shaft.
- Modified center section to prevent oil coking issues with the OE turbo.
- Added a CNC billet compressor wheel, which offers increased airflow at a given boost pressure, resulting in faster turbo spool, lower EGTs, and provides superior surge resistance compared to the OE cast wheel.
- 1-year manufacturer’s warranty.

Do you offer any kind of core program? Or send an a junk Garrett and build with your supplier parts?


I personally have been running this turbo on my daily driver for about a year with no issues. I depend on this vehicle for transporting my 3 year old son safely and for running business operations, so reliability is hugely important.
Author:  weeks101 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
jws84_02 wrote:
Do you offer any kind of core program? Or send an a junk Garrett and build with your supplier parts?

No, sorry. All parts are brand new.
Author:  GordnadoCRD [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
The start of my whole project vehicle was a self-destructed Stigan.

I can confirm that it looks very very much (on the outside) like the Sasquatch turbo that I just finished installing.

The little exterior differences I could see were in the center section.

The vacuum module and the compressor housing were, to my eyes, identical.

The main difference was in the "installation kit" Both the oil supply line and the oil return line of the Sasquatch weigh substantially more, enough to easily feel the difference in both.

The steel supply line of the Sasquatch is more robust, and must me made of a more dense metal, as the difference is easy to feel.

The oil return line of the Stigan has a longer thinner flex section which may make for easier installation, however this is one of the pieces that outright failed. If you take a garden hose and twist it until it folds in on it's self, making a crease that cuts off flow, this is how the flex section I removed looks. Also the grommet that carries the oil into the crankcase was soft and mushy. I don't know what it was like when new, but I consider it to have failed as there was major oil loss at this point. The Sasquatch kit piece feels very firm like it may have silicone or some other compound to hold up better against heat and petroleum distillates. The drain pipe is much larger with true high pressure hydraulic fittings at either end of a much larger diameter flex section, and installed with no twist.

The stigan that failed, I disassembled completely to understand what happened.
The compressor wheel had all blades but one worn at the tips and had taken quite a beating. The one that was different was broken off at the base.
I theorize that something made this blade break off. Maybe manufacturing defect, maybe something else, but there was no evidence of anything big bad or ugly going through, as all of the blades would be effected, and the intake had no splits or openings between the filter and the turbo.
The stigan uses an inside plate with 4 special screws to attach the compressor housing to the center section. Something (probably vibration) cause 3 of the 4 screws to loosen, and one not only loosened, but delivered the coup de grace by backing out until it contacted the compressor wheel, where it continued to back out making a groove in the smooth back side of the aluminum wheel, and finally seizing it solid, and cocked to one side.

At this point engine oil began to pump through the shaft seal, the cac hose, filling the intercooler all the way to the exit level, where it continued through the egr valve, the manifold, through the combustion chambers, the exhaust, the turbine (frozen in place) the exhaust (the engine would still start and run but not rev) and the guy ran it until it was running out the exhaust tailpipe. (behind the rear axle)

So, I have exactly 1 experience with Stigan. Not pretty. Very bad.
I have exactly 0 experience with the operation of the Sasquatch, as the engine has not been fired yet, and vehicle has not been driven. My side by side impression of the Sasquatch is that it's more robust, and hopefully the compressor wheel doesn't lose any vanes during operation.
Author:  joelukex4 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
weeks101 wrote:
jws84_02 wrote:
Do you offer any kind of core program? Or send an a junk Garrett and build with your supplier parts?

No, sorry. All parts are brand new.



I this a VNT turbo?
Author:  Sir Sam [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
weeks101 wrote:
I don't know anything about Stigan or their products. We partner with a reputable US-based turbo supplier who manufactures the turbos for us.

These are the main advantages to our offering:

- Upgraded to a larger center shaft with 360° thrust bearing, which distributes and supports the complete thrust load placed on the shaft, whereas the OE turbo 270° thrust bearing covers only a portion of the shaft.
- Modified center section to prevent oil coking issues with the OE turbo.
- Added a CNC billet compressor wheel, which offers increased airflow at a given boost pressure, resulting in faster turbo spool, lower EGTs, and provides superior surge resistance compared to the OE cast wheel.
- 1-year manufacturer’s warranty.


I personally have been running this turbo on my daily driver for about a year with no issues. I depend on this vehicle for transporting my 3 year old son safely and for running business operations, so reliability is hugely important.


Who manufactures this turbo in the us?
Author:  weeks101 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
joelukex4 wrote:
I this a VNT turbo?

Yes. It's a factory replacement, plug-and-play.
Author:  weeks101 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
Sir Sam wrote:
Who manufactures this turbo in the us?

You're asking me to publicly disclose a strategic business partnership? :? It's a private-label arrangement. We have the turbos made to our specs. We can be considered the manufacturer for all intents and purposes.


undrgnd wrote:
I've not had to replace a turbo (yet) nor do I know anything about stigan but i do know that every sasquatch product I have received has been of good quality. Good response time from the team and fast delivery. Can't ask for much more than that. So when mine does go, I will go straight to them for the new one.

Cheers sir! I don't put the Sasquatch name behind a product unless I would personally run it on my vehicle. In this niche, we can't always compete on price alone, but we make up for that in quality and service. :)
Author:  Sir Sam [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
weeks101 wrote:
Sir Sam wrote:
Who manufactures this turbo in the us?

You're asking me to publicly disclose a strategic business partnership? :? It's a private-label arrangement. We have the turbos made to our specs. We can be considered the manufacturer for all intents and purposes.



No, I'm asking basic questions about a product to the forum that I have not found answers to yet.
Author:  Ceearedeedriver [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
weeks101 wrote:
Sir Sam wrote:
Who manufactures this turbo in the us?

You're asking me to publicly disclose a strategic business partnership? :? It's a private-label arrangement. We have the turbos made to our specs. We can be considered the manufacturer for all intents and purposes.

It's a fair question. Many companies are quite happy to tell us who they contract their manufacturing and/or design to e.g. Apple/Foxconn, Dodge/Cummins.

Owners are understandably anxious about the origins and pedigree of a part that has the potential to destroy their engine.

Of course, you're perfectly at liberty not to provide this information and I completely respect that choice.

But this leaves us with the dilemma that, from a buyer perspective, the Sasquatch brand has zero credibility or history in the turbo market. You really need to use the reputation and pedigree of your partner to bring that credibility otherwise you're offering is hard to differentiate from Stigan and leaves you both behind Garrett as the only real credible offering.
Author:  weeks101 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 5:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
OK guys, in the interest of 100% complete transparency, email.me and I'll tell you who builds them for us.

They are well-established in the Duramax, Cummins and Powerstroke markets, known for turbochargers, transmissions, fuel systems, etc.
Author:  joelukex4 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
I commend you.

On their site they speak of a new wastegate controller. I thought there was no wastegate?
Author:  flash7210 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stigan Turbo or Susquatch
Correct. There is no wastegate. Its a variable vane turbo.
But some people dont know the difference.
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