Geordi's threads VS others?

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:19 pm

highironcrd wrote:

heading to boca to file papers in court against him.

That is your prerogative and I am not attempting to dissuade you from doing so.

Let me just point out that you have someone who has verbally agreed to pay you money owed, albeit with an unknown timeline. From your perspective you have no guarantees that you will ever see that money again with only someones word.

My thoughts:

Saying you are going to court to file in small claims serves no purpose here. Its essentially a threat that you are going to escalate things if you are not repaid in due time(due time having already passed from your perspective).

By forcing the issue to court you potentially lose out on the verbal agreed repayment. The party could decide to take their chances in court and delay payment until moderated there. Sure you might be able to garnish some wages out of a court ruling - but thats a bigger longer fight. Once someone has wages garnished do you think they will opt to pony up the money right away?

My conclusion: Don't announce to the world that you are going to take someone to court as a form of saber rattling. This only works if you think the person is bluffing(bluffing about being able to repay you in this case). You cannot squeeze blood from a stone, and saying you are does no one any good.

PZKW108 · **Joined:** Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:23 pm **Posts:** 461

Sir Sam wrote:

highironcrd wrote:

heading to boca to file papers in court against him.

That is your prerogative and I am not attempting to dissuade you from doing so.

Let me just point out that you have someone who has verbally agreed to pay you money owed, albeit with an unknown timeline. From your perspective you have no guarantees that you will ever see that money again with only someones word.

My thoughts:

Saying you are going to court to file in small claims serves no purpose here. Its essentially a threat that you are going to escalate things if you are not repaid in due time(due time having already passed from your perspective).

By forcing the issue to court you potentially lose out on the verbal agreed repayment. The party could decide to take their chances in court and delay payment until moderated there. Sure you might be able to garnish some wages out of a court ruling - but thats a bigger longer fight. Once someone has wages garnished do you think they will opt to pony up the money right away?

My conclusion: Don't announce to the world that you are going to take someone to court as a form of saber rattling. This only works if you think the person is bluffing(bluffing about being able to repay you in this case). You cannot squeeze blood from a stone, and saying you are does no one any good.

It might be some good advice !!

but my advice would be not to give legal advise on internet....... :juggle:

Ceearedeedriver · **Joined:** Fri May 06, 2016 8:44 pm **Posts:** 177

highironcrd wrote:

who's treatment??are you referring to the way Geordi has been Treated?

Yes, I was comparing the way the threads you started were locked (Geordi's treatment) versus the way threads attacking other vendors have been handled by the forum moderators. I'm not commenting on your personal grievance with Geordi and I don't believe you should be either given your pending court action. I would certainly bear your review in mind in the extremely unlikely event I ever considered hiring Geordi.

I didn't fully read your story because it was too littered with irrelevant details but I believe the summary is:
- You paid Geordi a deposit for a vehicle you were planning to buy from him
- Geordi is unable to deliver said vehicle in the condition you agreed to buy it
- It's not clear if you both agree on the amount owing
- Geordi has agreed to return your money but indicated he cannot at the moment because he doesn't have sufficient funds

If you take this to court the judge will undoubtedly rule in your favour but given Geordi's stated financial situation I'm not sure what outcome you're looking for here. If Geordi doesn't have the assets to cover this the Judge will likely look at his income and order some sort of repayment schedule that he can realistically manage. You may or may not get awarded costs.

Given you both appear to agree that Geordi owes you money I'm not quite sure why you can't figure out a repayment schedule between yourselves rather that involving the courts?

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:09 am

Ceearedeedriver wrote:

highironcrd wrote:

who's treatment??are you referring to the way Geordi has been Treated?

Yes, I was comparing the way the threads you started were locked (Geordi's treatment) versus the way threads attacking other vendors have been handled by the forum moderators. I'm not commenting on your personal grievance with Geordi and I don't believe you should be either given your pending court action. I would certainly bear your review in mind in the extremely unlikely event I ever considered hiring Geordi.

I didn't fully read your story because it was too littered with irrelevant details but I believe the summary is:
- You paid Geordi a deposit for a vehicle you were planning to buy from him
- Geordi is unable to deliver said vehicle in the condition you agreed to buy it
- It's not clear if you both agree on the amount owing
- Geordi has agreed to return your money but indicated he cannot at the moment because he doesn't have sufficient funds

If you take this to court the judge will undoubtedly rule in your favour but given Geordi's stated financial situation I'm not sure what outcome you're looking for here. If Geordi doesn't have the assets to cover this the Judge will likely look at his income and order some sort of repayment schedule that he can realistically manage. You may or may not get awarded costs.

Given you both appear to agree that Geordi owes you money I'm not quite sure why you can't figure out a repayment schedule between yourselves rather that involving the courts?

Going the legal way you will get paid or he goes to jail.The otherway may or may not work,it's a gamble.

I just went through this myself against my mother,25% of what she makes and her entire tax returns are mine till her bill to me is paid off and most likely will will never be paid off because of the amount owed but I will get some of it back.

jws84_02 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:25 am

Not to go off topic....but, you sued your mom??

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:34 pm

jws84_02 wrote:

Not to go off topic....but, you sued your mom??

Yep,still waiting on that apology and it will all go away.

Ceearedeedriver · **Joined:** Fri May 06, 2016 8:44 pm **Posts:** 177

tjkj2002 wrote:

Going the legal way you will get paid or he goes to jail.The otherway may or may not work,it's a gamble.

You can always go the legal way if the other way fails as long as you don't exceed the statute of limitations. I've known people that don't care about going to jail so that can be a gamble too. One thing for sure though, the more you pish the person off the less likely it is to be resolved amicably.

If you care about your relationships suing your mother is never going to end well.

highironcrd · **Joined:** Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:52 pm **Posts:** 133

Sir Sam wrote:

highironcrd wrote:

heading to boca to file papers in court against him.

That is your prerogative and I am not attempting to dissuade you from doing so.

Let me just point out that you have someone who has verbally agreed to pay you money owed, albeit with an unknown timeline. From your perspective you have no guarantees that you will ever see that money again with only someones word.

My thoughts:

Saying you are going to court to file in small claims serves no purpose here. Its essentially a threat that you are going to escalate things if you are not repaid in due time(due time having already passed from your perspective).

By forcing the issue to court you potentially lose out on the verbal agreed repayment. The party could decide to take their chances in court and delay payment until moderated there. Sure you might be able to garnish some wages out of a court ruling - but thats a bigger longer fight. Once someone has wages garnished do you think they will opt to pony up the money right away?

My conclusion: Don't announce to the world that you are going to take someone to court as a form of saber rattling. This only works if you think the person is bluffing(bluffing about being able to repay you in this case). You cannot squeeze blood from a stone, and saying you are does no one any good.

doo doo thats great advise but he NEVER HAD ANY INTENT ON PAYING BACK,,please brother I've been dealing with this on a personal level and if my saber rattling bothers you ,skip the topic and stick to your own posts,,someone rips you off just the same, trust me you would probably let it go,...time table,,that kid NEVER WAITED FOR A DIME, he couldn't handle it,.but he's your helpful hero.not mine

highironcrd · **Joined:** Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:52 pm **Posts:** 133

tjkj2002 wrote:

Ceearedeedriver wrote:

highironcrd wrote:

who's treatment??are you referring to the way Geordi has been Treated?

Yes, I was comparing the way the threads you started were locked (Geordi's treatment) versus the way threads attacking other vendors have been handled by the forum moderators. I'm not commenting on your personal grievance with Geordi and I don't believe you should be either given your pending court action. I would certainly bear your review in mind in the extremely unlikely event I ever considered hiring Geordi.

I didn't fully read your story because it was too littered with irrelevant details but I believe the summary is:
- You paid Geordi a deposit for a vehicle you were planning to buy from him
- Geordi is unable to deliver said vehicle in the condition you agreed to buy it
- It's not clear if you both agree on the amount owing
- Geordi has agreed to return your money but indicated he cannot at the moment because he doesn't have sufficient funds

If you take this to court the judge will undoubtedly rule in your favour but given Geordi's stated financial situation I'm not sure what outcome you're looking for here. If Geordi doesn't have the assets to cover this the Judge will likely look at his income and order some sort of repayment schedule that he can realistically manage. You may or may not get awarded costs.

Given you both appear to agree that Geordi owes you money I'm not quite sure why you can't figure out a repayment schedule between yourselves rather that involving the courts?

Going the legal way you will get paid or he goes to jail.The otherway may or may not work,it's a gamble.

I just went through this myself against my mother,25% of what she makes and her entire tax returns are mine till her bill to me is paid off and most likely will will never be paid off because of the amount owed but I will get some of it back.[/quoteyea the whole thing is exhausting ,look I'm not mad ,I'm not tripping out on it, the update that I'm filing court papers is only a brotherly update, that infant,he has run yellow bellied on me and hides behind the solidarity of a few here,..honest. man that is one sweet looking jeep on your profile, sorry if my updates were pissing the brotherhood off i don't mean to, just an update, not looking to re-mow the yard,Im sorry you had to do the same, sucks when people run on you.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:32 pm

Personally there is no excuse for not returning a deposit or other money owed in a timely fashion.

If you want to borrow money, go to a bank. If you owe somebody money go to a bank and borrow the money and pay whoever it is you owe the money to.

I certainly could not afford to be owed $2000.

flman · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:57 pm

jrsavoie wrote:

Personally there is no excuse for not returning a deposit or other money owed in a timely fashion.

If you want to borrow money, go to a bank. If you owe somebody money got to a bank and borrow the money and pay whoever it is you owe the money to.

I certainly could not afford to be owed $2000.

After reading this thread and the implications, I agree, and would be just as pissed if someone owed me $2000 with no good excuse.

blk05liberty · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:43 pm

WAIT, SO WHAT HAPPENED? :5SHOTS:

PZKW108 · **Joined:** Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:23 pm **Posts:** 461

jrsavoie wrote:

Personally there is no excuse for not returning a deposit or other money owed in a timely fashion.

If you want to borrow money, go to a bank. If you owe somebody money go to a bank and borrow the money and pay whoever it is you owe the money to.

I certainly could not afford to be owed $2000.

This is the most simple solution and the one that make more sense.

I can hear the judge saying these words !!!!!

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:45 pm

PZKW108 wrote:

jrsavoie wrote:

Personally there is no excuse for not returning a deposit or other money owed in a timely fashion.

If you want to borrow money, go to a bank. If you owe somebody money go to a bank and borrow the money and pay whoever it is you owe the money to.

I certainly could not afford to be owed $2000.

This is the most simple solution and the one that make more sense.

I can hear the judge saying these words !!!!!

Not everyone is in the position to just walk into a bank and get a loan. And I would guess the type of person that would have trouble paying back money might also be the person having trouble getting a loan.

Don't take the above to mean that I am takes sides with any party. I just want to point out that you cannot squeeze blood from a stone.

jrsavoie · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:55 pm

Sir Sam wrote:

PZKW108 wrote:

jrsavoie wrote:

Personally there is no excuse for not returning a deposit or other money owed in a timely fashion.

If you want to borrow money, go to a bank. If you owe somebody money go to a bank and borrow the money and pay whoever it is you owe the money to.

I certainly could not afford to be owed $2000.

This is the most simple solution and the one that make more sense.

I can hear the judge saying these words !!!!!

Not everyone is in the position to just walk into a bank and get a loan. And I would guess the type of person that would have trouble paying back money might also be the person having trouble getting a loan.

Don't take the above to mean that I am takes sides with any party. I just want to point out that you cannot squeeze blood from a stone.

LOL Not so sure about that last line. I watched a movie called The Godfather.

There's always credit cards and selling what you have to pay your debts.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:36 pm

jrsavoie wrote:

There's always credit cards and selling what you have to pay your debts.

Again not everyone has credit cards, or if they do they may not have credit available in the amounts required.

I believe Mr. Geordie has stated he is trying to sell what he has to repay debts. I also think Mr. highironcrd does not believe he intends to pay if/when(and who knows how long when is) Mr. Geordie has liquidated some assets.

I'm not trying to offer excuses for anyone, I just wish to offer a pragmatic view from an outsider.

WolverineFW · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:23 am

jrsavoie wrote:

Personally there is no excuse for not returning a deposit or other money owed in a timely fashion.

If you want to borrow money, go to a bank. If you owe somebody money go to a bank and borrow the money and pay whoever it is you owe the money to.

I certainly could not afford to be owed $2000.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

Anyone who runs a business needs to have cash flow. This is to compensate for ebbs and flows in the business and to have cash on hand to cover emergencies. If you had employees and tried to tell them you would pay them when you get some money, most would walk out.

It should never be the customers responsibility to become a lending institution. This also goes both ways as the business should expect payment in a timely manner from the customer for services rendered.

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jrsavoie · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:47 am

Sir Sam wrote:

jrsavoie wrote:

There's always credit cards and selling what you have to pay your debts.

Again not everyone has credit cards, or if they do they may not have credit available in the amounts required.

I believe Mr. Geordie has stated he is trying to sell what he has to repay debts. I also think Mr. highironcrd does not believe he intends to pay if/when(and who knows how long when is) Mr. Geordie has liquidated some assets.

I'm not trying to offer excuses for anyone, I just wish to offer a pragmatic view from an outsider.

Not the way I was raised and I would not do business with anybody with that kind of attitude.

highironcrd · **Joined:** Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:52 pm **Posts:** 133

jrsavoie wrote:

Sir Sam wrote:

jrsavoie wrote:

There's always credit cards and selling what you have to pay your debts.

Again not everyone has credit cards, or if they do they may not have credit available in the amounts required.

I believe Mr. Geordie has stated he is trying to sell what he has to repay debts. I also think Mr. highironcrd does not believe he intends to pay if/when(and who knows how long when is) Mr. Geordie has liquidated some assets.

I'm not trying to offer excuses for anyone, I just wish to offer a pragmatic view from an outsider.

Not the way I was raised and I would not do business with anybody with that kind of attitude.

Blessings to all you guys whether I agree with you or not

time to put this to rest,im moving forward and hopefully will be turning the key on one soon, I do Love the CRD,gunna have the stage 4 done and I'm giddy with excitement,.yes there has been a lot spoke of here about Geordie, I think the responses agreed or not agreed have run their course,..out of respect for the community I will do my best to keep things on the level in crd chat only,.as for the business aspect we could carve up all days for geordie liquidating,Ive yet to see an offer or a penny, but that my problem.and ill deal with IT. he has my phone number my address and my pay pal account and hasn't done anything in over a month.story told , now lets heal up, take a second look every time, i KNOW NOW there is many good eggs and great Mechanics here, IM glad to know you guys,Imsorry we met under the conditions, but keep the dream alive !!

WWDiesel · **Posted:** Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:57 am

highironcrd wrote:

Blessings to all you guys whether I agree with you or not

time to put this to rest,im moving forward and hopefully will be turning the key on one soon, I do Love the CRD,gunna have the stage 4 done and I'm giddy with excitement,.yes there has been a lot spoke of here about Geordie, I think the responses agreed or not agreed have run their course,..out of respect for the community I will do my best to keep things on the level in crd chat only,.as for the business aspect we could carve up all days for geordie liquidating,Ive yet to see an offer or a penny, but that my problem.and ill deal with IT. he has my phone number my address and my pay pal account and hasn't done anything in over a month.story told , now lets heal up, take a second look every time, i KNOW NOW there is many good eggs and great Mechanics here, IM glad to know you guys,Imsorry we met under the conditions, but keep the dream alive !!

Hear, Hear; and Keep a Stiff Upper Lip as the British would say! Time heals all wounds!!!!
We all learn from our mistakes, Good and / or Bad! I can fully relate; been stiffed by a person in the past whom I thought at the time was a good friend; I helped him out of a bind and he never fully repaid me; wrote if off years ago and chalked it up to experience!

But have not forgotten the life lesson!!!

If you ever need any help or advise with your new CRD, just ask, plenty of very GOOD people on this forum more than willing to help!!!! :wink:

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