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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:04 pm 
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You can swap in any TCM you like, as long as it's for a 545rfe. You don't need to program the VIN into it. But shift characteristics will vary depending on engine and vehicle type.
I don't think your problem is with the TCM.

I think the problem is the solenoid pack.
I'm pretty sure your 545rfe has the white connector.
Whatever you get, whether it's just a solenoid pack or valve body with solenoid pack, make sure the connector is the same color as what you have.

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:23 pm 
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I agree it's more likely to be a solenoid pack than the TCM.
I think it's as likely to be an accumulator problem as the solenoid pack.
If he does a quick-learn procedure and the problem is not fixed, or comes back again in a month or so, it's most likely an OD clutch problem.

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:17 pm 
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Thank you all for the timely replies!. I have my silver 05 CRD still, so first Im going to attempt to just replace the TCM from there and see what that will do, if it won't do anything, then I'm going to attempt to swap out the entire valve body from the silver with the original TCM from the Khaki one. If that doesn't work then I'm just going to take the tranny from the silver one and swap out into the khaki one and call it a day. The silver one had no issues with the tranny!!


BTW! how do I do the "relearn" thing or whatever you all are saying for me to try.

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:49 am 
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First of all you need access to a scanner that can initialize the test.
Then you just do exactly what the scanner tells you to do. It will "learn" the condition of your transmission, and adjust to it as well as it can.
Then you drive it.

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PV-200
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vent gauges

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cams
rockers
Timing set
ARP studs
eTn1 GX2123 5v GPs

Flowmster 942550
Carter P76611M
GM 12611872
Hayden 2986
GM 15017911
2010 RamTrans
Sonnax 44957
Transgo kit
custom billet TC
Cooper 51770

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:57 am 
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bigE.94 wrote:
Thank you all for the timely replies!. I have my silver 05 CRD still, so first Im going to attempt to just replace the TCM from there and see what that will do, if it won't do anything, then I'm going to attempt to swap out the entire valve body from the silver with the original TCM from the Khaki one. If that doesn't work then I'm just going to take the tranny from the silver one and swap out into the khaki one and call it a day. The silver one had no issues with the tranny!!

BTW! how do I do the "relearn" thing or whatever you all are saying for me to try.

See section 3.2.3, pages 3-5 of the Transmission manual that is online!

LINK:> 3.2.3 DRIVE LEARN PROCEDURE – 45/545RFE

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:16 pm 
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Alrighty fellas. After spending almost 3 weeks at 2 different transmission shops. (1st shop blew smoke up my booty and took up a week while doing absolutely nothing to it) I finally had a shop hook it up to one of their computers/scanners and these where the findings: "scan tool shows trans range sensor reading invalid and therefore we cant perform quick learn procedure." They did drop my pan and they showed it to me and it had a little bit more of the friction dust from the clutches. MY question now is. Where is this trans range sensor and if I attempt to swap out the valve body from the other jeep will it also need to have the quick learn procedure done? While only having 1-2 gear available now. Please help.

If anybody knows anybody that knows how to work on these CRD's in the state of washington and near the seattle/tacoma area don't hesitate to recommend them.

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:10 pm 
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I'm pretty sure that the transmission range sensor is part of the solenoid pack, on top of the valve body.

Yes, you can swap over the valve body from another 545rfe to see if that fixes it. No quick learn required.

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intake elbow and EGR delete. 7 volt Etecno glow plugs
Yeti stage 2 ECU tune. Straight pipe exhaust. DIY intercooler hoses
Provent and modified factory 180F thermostat
Replaced cylinder head (cracked) at 160,000 miles + ARP studs
Cheap 1 inch lift, 245-75R-16 tires.
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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:51 pm 
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bigE.94 wrote:
If anybody knows anybody that knows how to work on these CRD's in the state of washington and near the seattle/tacoma area don't hesitate to recommend them.

The 545RFE transmission is a very common transmission that was used in untold numbers of Jeep and Dodge vehicles. Any GOOD CONFIDENT transmission facility should be able to diagnose and recommend any needed repairs. :wink:
Sorry, wish you were closer, I have a super transmission shop in my town with an owner who really knows his stuff.....

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Carter Intank-pump
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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:45 am 
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WWDiesel wrote:
bigE.94 wrote:
If anybody knows anybody that knows how to work on these CRD's in the state of washington and near the seattle/tacoma area don't hesitate to recommend them.

The 545RFE transmission is a very common transmission that was used in untold numbers of Jeep and Dodge vehicles. Any GOOD CONFIDENT transmission facility should be able to diagnose and recommend any needed repairs. :wink:
Sorry, wish you were closer, I have a super transmission shop in my town with an owner who really knows his stuff.....


That is why I am so shocked that the shops around here, their first impulse is to just sell me a new tranny and not even try to break it down and rebuild it. kinda makes me wonder IF they even know anything about transmissions.

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:45 am 
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bigE.94 wrote:
WWDiesel wrote:
bigE.94 wrote:
If anybody knows anybody that knows how to work on these CRD's in the state of washington and near the seattle/tacoma area don't hesitate to recommend them.

The 545RFE transmission is a very common transmission that was used in untold numbers of Jeep and Dodge vehicles. Any GOOD CONFIDENT transmission facility should be able to diagnose and recommend any needed repairs. :wink:
Sorry, wish you were closer, I have a super transmission shop in my town with an owner who really knows his stuff.....


That is why I am so shocked that the shops around here, their first impulse is to just sell me a new tranny and not even try to break it down and rebuild it. kinda makes me wonder IF they even know anything about transmissions.

Difference between a "parts changer" and a true mechanic who knows how to diagnose and only repair what is needed! :wink:
Not just start throwing parts at it in a best guess hope of repair! :banghead:

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Blk Brush Guard/Hella's/LED's
Ironman Springs/Bilstein's
Yeti Stg4 MaxTune
Weeks ElbowKit/Battery Tray
NO FCV/EGR
Samcos/ProVent
SunCoast/Transgo
Carter Intank-pump
2mic.Sec.Fuel Filter
Flowmaster/NOcat
V6 Airbox
GM11 blade fan/Hayden HD clutch
Ironrock Trilink
98 Dodge Cummins, 5"exh. Viair,K&N


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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:26 pm 
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Then again, some very reputable shops only want to sell / install transmissions that they know have been gone completely through either by themselves or someone they trust, so they can warranty the work. To pull a customer's tranny apart and just replace the failed or worn parts carries a high risk that when they put the trans back in, the next weakest link will fail, and they're stuck with an unhappy customer who will probably have to pay more than they should have, and/or end up with a lawsuit.

the trick is: how do you tell the difference?

Mainly you want the shop with the best reputation for standing behind their work. Check online reviews, but keep in mind, nearly every customer with a complaint will have their say, but only 1 in 5 at best, of the happy customers will chime in.

Chat with folks in their waiting room if they have one. See if any are repeat customers.

Ask for customer references. Any good reputable shop will usually have customers that don't mind people calling to ask about their experience. Bonus points if they are local businesses that always come there for trans work.

One path I used was I called my insurance (Farmers, and later State Farm) and asked where they preferred their body work be done. Then called that business, and asked where they send their vehicles that had transmission damage. That worked well for me in Klamath Falls OR, Imperial Beach CA (referred to Chula Vista) and Poway CA. Strangely enough no one ever referred me to any Aamco shop.

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Sasquatch
DSS Turbo
CAT-elimntr
Weeks Stg1&2 EGRfix
PV-200
BLING
vent gauges

IDParts New
head
cams
rockers
Timing set
ARP studs
eTn1 GX2123 5v GPs

Flowmster 942550
Carter P76611M
GM 12611872
Hayden 2986
GM 15017911
2010 RamTrans
Sonnax 44957
Transgo kit
custom billet TC
Cooper 51770

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:03 am 
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A good experienced transmission repair shop facility will completely rebuild your transmission unless there is something catastrophically wrong with it. They make their money by rebuilding, not selling someone else's remanufactured transmission. I know two different local transmission shop owners/rebuilders personally and this is what they do.
They rebuild by: disassembling transmission completely and mechanically cleaning all parts thoroughly and then inspect all parts for any wear or problems. They replace all friction parts, seals, gaskets, etc... and all items that are prone to wear and any parts found to be defective along with installing a new oil pump. They reinstall, test, and stand behind their work/rebuild with a warranty.... :wink:

Anyone can purchase a remanufactured engine or transmission from one of the parts stores or even online, but if you have a problem with it, getting warranty work can be a real challenge! Do you want to have to take engine or transmission back out and send it back or simply take it to the local repair facility that performed the rebuild and let them handle it. :roll:

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Ironman Springs/Bilstein's
Yeti Stg4 MaxTune
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Samcos/ProVent
SunCoast/Transgo
Carter Intank-pump
2mic.Sec.Fuel Filter
Flowmaster/NOcat
V6 Airbox
GM11 blade fan/Hayden HD clutch
Ironrock Trilink
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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:27 am 
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Well like I said earlier. Im still in need of a shop that's fairly local to me that knows how to deal with this tranny. But small update. I did swap valve bodies on the jeeps, and still the newer brown jeep that got the new TC and the front pump is still in some sort of limp mode where it is restricted to 1-2nd gears, while the older 05 even with the valve body that had the shift kit in it, still rowed through all the gears and even though the front hub was screaming bloody murder and the poor engine with its own set of problms, was dumping smoke, it was still able to hit 60mph no problem and shift smoothly as well... At this point, I'm lost.. Could it really be that the speed sensors are messing it up that badly but not reading things correctly? At this point I'm game to even swap out the TCM's between the 2. I wouldn't want to open that pandoras box, but if I have to then I will.

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 Post subject: Re: TC and Transgo Shift kit installation.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:38 am 
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When I put the transgo in my 06 it did all sorts of weird stuff for awhile. the worst was the shift from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th. It felt like bangshifting a manual. I took it easy on it for a few days and it got alittle better but not to my liking.

I had the dealer did a relearn (this was the key) and kept the fluid level high and the problem got far better.

I drove it soft after that for about 350 miles and then started to really beat on it more. It shifts so nice and quick now the mushy shifting in my 05 bothers the crap out of me anymore.

I think i put this kit in around 135k... when I took the trans all apart the clutches inside still looked really new, the printed P/N's on them were plainly visible still. jeep has over 160k on it now and I have not had any other issues with it.

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