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 Post subject: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:51 pm 
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Hi all!

I just would like to inform you how to put some extra life in a squeaking bearing according to subject.
It all started when I heard a squeaking sound that did get more and more noisy.
The ball bearing was not totalty shut, I could sense a small play though (I released the drive belt for this).

The workshops do not replace the ballbearing, they do replace the whole unit. Very costly.
There must be a way to put some extra life in the bearing without having to replace it immediately.

Yes, there is :BANANA: . In fact, I did not have to disassemble the viscous heater in order to access the bearing :) !
The bearing is a sealed AC type, 35BD5222DUM 18A (double ball ring).

The trick was to loosen the coupler plate, i.e. have something that prevent it from turning when you try to loosen the screw.
Tools used:
- Ratchet with a 10 mm hexagon socket
- two flat screwdrivers (or one flat screw driver and one circlip pryer for outer circlip)
- an inspection mirror (a small mirror mounted on a telescopic stick)
- needle hook
- magneto stick (you need it for the things you drop down the engine bay, I promise)
- led torch
- small brush, 5 mm wide tip.

Have high quality grease available. I used CRC superadhesive bearing grease.

Steps:
1) Loosen the drive belt (15 mm nut on the spring pulley)
2) Place the ratchet with the 10 mm socket on the couplerplate nut.
Place the screwdriver with one end on the lifting hook on the engine front and the flat end on a rivet on the coupler plate.
This will prevent the coupler plate from turning when you turn the ratchet.
3) Turn the ratchet counterclockwise in order to loosen the screw. You do not need much tourqe to loosen it.
The plate is fixed on a splined axle and it is quite easy to pry out.
4) With the coupler plate away, you will see a circlip in front of the bearing that you need to pry out.
The flat screw driver works for this too. I used two screwdrivers, one to keep the pried out away from falling back
and the other one to pry out the ring a bit more. A circlip pryer would do the job better, but I did not have one.
5) With the circlip away, you know need to pry out the bearing seal.
Here the inspection mirror, led torch and a sharp needle type hook are very much handy.
Pry out the seal gently from its outer end. It will pop out.
6) With the bearing seal away, you can now access the bearing balls directly.
Push in grease with the brush. Turn the pulley at the same time in order to distribute the grease evenly.

Now, reverse the steps.

This took me about 3 hours to do this, including a lot of cursing (dropping nuts, circlip, bearing seal down the engine bay etc etc), coffe break in order to calm down and try again until done.
It all ended very happily, the squeaking was effectively silenced and I could calmly plan for a proper bearing replacement later on.

Evidence in this postimage.org album:
https://postimg.org/gallery/1b26vvo7y/
Image of the repacked bearing:
Image

Best Regards
KalleXX

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 Post subject: Re: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:02 pm 
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Nice to have a PN. There is an old post on this that says the bearing size in 35mm ID X 52mm OD x 22mm thick; see viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60567 . The missing pictures are in a copy of that post in my tech tips PDF at http://colorado4wheel.com/manuals/Jeep/KJ/

Stupid that the dealer cannot handle a simple bearing replacement but I guess they spend less time and make more money selling you a new viscous heater and installing it as opposed to removing the old one and replacing the bearing.

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 Post subject: Re: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:22 pm 
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Thanks for this. Mine literally started squeaking 2 days ago. Might have to make an attempt this weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:46 pm 
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Re-packed the bearing with grease this morning. No more squeak. I removed the fan shroud which made it much easier than what it looked like when I was first looking at it.

Thanks again KalleXX. I was thinking about replacing the whole thing. Now if it goes bad again I'll probably just have a machine shop press in a new bearing.

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 Post subject: Re: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:01 pm 
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There are a couple of members on here who totally removed the vicious heater out ot the circuit and completely done away with it.
Used a shorter belt with a small pulley to keep things neat....
Interested, search this forum....

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 Post subject: Re: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:09 pm 
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If it ever fails I may go that route. But it is very nice in the winter. It gives me heat on a 25°F cold start in less than a mile.

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 Post subject: Re: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:48 pm 
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The bearings are not expensive. Like $10ish IIRC. Stupid that they don't use the same bearing as the AC though.

Repack or replace, as long as you actually do one or the other, because if left undone, it quickly damages the mag clutch coils, and that gets really expensive really fast.

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 Post subject: Re: I saved a squeaking viscous heater pulley bearing!
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At last, today I replaced the old bearing (it still was quite silent after my repacking last year). No special tools were used. It was easy to pry out the pulley and knock out the bearing. I used the old bearing to knock in the new bearing. I shrinked the pulley axle a bit with a cooling spray and the pulley was gently knocken in.
This was fun. No complications at all [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH].
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