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 Post subject: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:04 pm 
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My first thought when the issue happened was a blown turbo...
1 min after start up the oil pressure light came on. I heard a minor noise coming from under the hood. I pulled over and checked the oil. It was barley registering on the dip stick. I had some oil and topped it off. I started and again and it runs great at idle but then when you start driving it acted like it didn’t have power...(very similar to when I blew an intercooler hose). I pulled over again the light was still on and was pour black smoke out of the exhaust and noise coming from the turbo. I had it towed home and haven’t messed with it since.


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:35 pm 
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Sure seems like a blown turbo.
Remove the turbo inlet hose, stick your fingers in there, and try to wiggle the shaft.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:37 pm 
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Also look and make sure the wheel is sitting dead center in the intake, and spins freely. Weird, I know, but there is a failure that sounds like this example, where the compressor wheel will be not wiggling, but off-center, and resists spinning.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:48 pm 
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Took the intake off and have a decent amount of play in the shaft. It wasn’t as much play as I would of thought given the suddenness of the failure. Would this also cost that much lost of oil?? How hard of a job in the turbo replacement?


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:42 pm 
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If you are dumping enough oil into the exhaust to make a smoke screen that would protect London from German bombers during WWII then you have a bad turbo.

This is the aftermath of the bad turbo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpmCkWHzHGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYlDldsb0ek

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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:40 am 
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Thanks for all the help! I will be ordering a new turbo this weekend. Does anyone have a write for the replacement procedures or dos and dont’s? Thanks In advance


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:55 pm 
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Go to http://colorado4wheel.com/manuals/Jeep/KJ/ and download my tech tips PDF, scroll down to the blown turbo removal and GDE turbo install bookmarks. Removal is obvious but for install just ignore the GDE specific items like welding in the new down pipe.

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1. be sure to soak these turbo to manifold nuts for like 24hrs in a good penetrating lube to prevent breaking the studs.
2. you will need from say idParts a) turbo to manifold gasket; b) oil feed line crush washers; c) oil drain line gasket and line to block grommet.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:48 pm 
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I had the same happen on my KK. Got a remanufactured one, from a company in Surrey (Im in the UK) Cost me £300. Replaced the hoses whilst I was there. Has run like a dream for the last 12 months.


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:54 pm 
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Two Tips, the bolts can be a real pain in the booty on the turbo, to the extent that you'll nearly snap them off trying to remove them.

Tip #1: Soak the bolts in Penetrating solvent overnight, and again before you try it.

Tip #2: Plug in the block heater to get the block up to temperature a bit more prior to trying to remove them.

Please do both.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:27 am 
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Here is my lostjeeps post / thread about replacing my OEM Turbo - with the Sasquatch Turbo: http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=86272

It wasn't that tough of a R&R

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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:01 pm 
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I installed the new turbo... easier than I expected, however; my oil pressure light is still on. I let it idle for about 7-10 mins. I then attempted to take it for a test drive around the block. I never exceeded 15mph. Within about a min the engine died. I started in and moved about 50ft and it died again. I towed it back home and attempted To start again where is idled for about 30 seconds before it died again. I then disconnected the battery and then atttepted to start it. It started and ran for about five minutes...the oil pressure light was still on (oil level is perfect). I attempted another test drive and it died again. I towed it back and now it sits.....

Is this due to the oil pressure light!?!?


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:31 pm 
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don't go on the road test any more this engine will seize up on you, ! so remove oil pressure sending unit and install mechanical pressure gauge there and start it up and run it only 1 min and see if the gauge is registering any oil pressure ?


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:07 pm 
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Got an oil pressure gauge put on a it read at 20psi in about 45 seconds I was scared to run it anymore than that...


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:25 pm 
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Does anyone recommend ordering a new sensor and trying that?


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:52 pm 
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lacrosseman2010 wrote:
Does anyone recommend ordering a new sensor and trying that?

It’s worth a shot.

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intake elbow and EGR delete. 7 volt Etecno glow plugs
Yeti stage 2 ECU tune. Straight pipe exhaust. DIY intercooler hoses
Provent and modified factory 180F thermostat
Replaced cylinder head (cracked) at 160,000 miles + ARP studs
2.5 inch lift, 255-75-17 tires.
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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:57 pm 
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yes you can replace sending unit as suggested , but you need to give us more details ,, oil pressure that you read on mechanical gauge 20 psi is it idle or high idle pressure ?


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:00 pm 
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rankom wrote:
yes you can replace sending unit as suggested , but you need to give us more details ,, oil pressure that you read on mechanical gauge 20 psi is it idle or high idle pressure ?

And, was it a cold engine or already warmed up?

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Bought my '05 CRD on June 2nd '07, used with 29,000 miles.
intake elbow and EGR delete. 7 volt Etecno glow plugs
Yeti stage 2 ECU tune. Straight pipe exhaust. DIY intercooler hoses
Provent and modified factory 180F thermostat
Replaced cylinder head (cracked) at 160,000 miles + ARP studs
2.5 inch lift, 255-75-17 tires.
Still love it.


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:09 pm 
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Yea cuz 20psi cold is not enough. Could be the reason why the turbo went out in the first place, crank and rod bearings would be the next to go on the list.

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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:23 pm 
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Ok... the Jeep has sat for a few days. On a cold engine the oil pressure is at 60psi at idle for 45.


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 Post subject: Re: Blown Turbo?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:08 pm 
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Mine has 149K on the short block
With Mobile 1 TDT
Started cold at idle is 100psi
As it warms it drops to 50psi at idle.

There are many things that could cause low pressure, but all of them I can think of are, unfortunately, bad news.

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