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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:53 pm 
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I've read plenty of us talking about a transmission temp sender, but has anyone actually pioneered a sender in the transmission case?
Would a sender in the pan be reasonably accurate? I mean, there's gotta be a correction I could add to the number after the cooler loop for the pan right?
What temp does the light on the dash come on at, and can we see that temp with a starscan or any other device?

I love the gear ratio with the 245/75's, but I need more cooling for the long slow offroad grades I do at high elevation in summer. I'm going to start cheap by relocating the stock cooler up to center of the radiator where it won't be blocked by the bumper. I cut the AC portion off years ago, and I also dont have the stock electric fan blocking any of that area, so stock is bigger airflow than stock in my case.
I will also wire a switch for my electric fan so I can flip it on for these slow speed accents.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:20 pm 
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I installed a 10 row stacked plate cooler in the opening under the bumper. See thread in tech section:> viewtopic.php?f=98&t=89140
installed the temperature probe for the gauge in a "Tee" block in the transmission cooler line flow going to the cooler right after it leaves the transmission.
most accurate location according to what I have read?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:35 pm 
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Since you already removed the AC condenser, just toss what left of the trans cooler and install and aftermarket cooler. Bigger is better.

A temp sensor in the case would be best.
I dont like drilling into the pan because it always leaks.
I got a cheap $10 digital temp sensor/gauge from amazon, zip tied the sensor tip to the cooler outlet line on the trans and wrapped it in insulation.
I still only have the stock trans cooler and I've seen as high as 215F on a hot summer day in city traffic, with the AC on. Typical highway cruising is in the 170-190F range.

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 Post subject: Re: transmission cooling, temp gauge
PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:51 pm 
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Thanks for the advice! I already have a non leaking welded bung on the pan, but maybe it would leak with a sensor.
Flash- you're hitting over 215 after it has cooled, that's not optimal, I'll follow your advice and go bigger. I might just insulate/tape a probe on the outlet line outside the case to see how hot things really are. And then try one in the pan for comparison.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:59 pm 
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Flash- you're hitting over 215 after it has cooled...

No. That temp is on the HOT line coming out of the transmission.

That is the outlet line going to the cooler.
I guess i could have worded it better.

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I drilled the pan and installed one. You need a plug with inner diam = probe diam (like 1/8 npt) and outer diam not very important, but get a matching "nut" so you can thread it on the other side of the pan (sandwich the pan in between. You can also use an O ring in between. To make sure it doesn't leak, I added some epoxy on the outside. So far, in 2+ years, no leaks. Temps up to 170F, but I have a yuuuge (to use presidential terms) cooler.

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 Post subject: Re: transmission cooling, temp gauge
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:06 pm 
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Flash- you're hitting over 215 after it has cooled...

No. That temp is on the HOT line coming out of the transmission.

That is the outlet line going to the cooler.
I guess i could have worded it better.


Ah thanks, that makes sense. I don't have AC, but I have big mountains to drive up. I wonder if my 3/8 NPT bung on my pan will easily fit an available sensor, Google time...

But, then again, I like the idea of getting the hot line out temp even better since Thermorex is maxing out at 170 in the pan. I probably better put a bigger cooler in and a deeper pan since my temp light came on twice after the bigger tires :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:05 pm 
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Ah thanks, that makes sense. I don't have AC, but I have big mountains to drive up. I wonder if my 3/8 NPT bung on my pan will easily fit an available sensor, Google time...
But, then again, I like the idea of getting the hot line out temp even better since Thermorex is maxing out at 170 in the pan. I probably better put a bigger cooler in and a deeper pan since my temp light came on twice after the bigger tires :shock:

They sale a block to mount inline (3/8) for the temperature sensor like the one I installed on mine. (first picture)
Glowshift also sales a inline "T" block fitting for sensor.(second picture)

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I installed a deep aluminum pan that has a port for a sender, I've never seen over 160F since on the hotest days going up hill with TC unlocked. Automatic transmissions create so much wash through the pan via the return lines and filter pickup that temps from the pan or the output port are really close. It isn't a stagnate lake in the pan. I used the tee from glow shift before I changed the pan, didn't notice any discernible difference.

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