Opinion on worth fixing? Or selling?

moonsista · **Joined:** Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:54 am **Posts:** 6

Dose any one still have their CRD on the road? Mine is at 120k, 2006 she needs some work done. Possibly the bearings and a exhaust leak (minor into cab). At this point I'm deciding whether to fix and keep on keeping on or to sell (possibly part out). I'm not able to do the work my self. And not sure what other issues i might need to look out for.
Already replaced transmission, new rocket rods, rear window, recalls, belts, filters, alternator.
Possibly needs struts and new battery.

Any opinions? Or CRD collectors with help on how go about this?

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Jay ne Ohio · **Joined:** Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:49 pm **Posts:** 216

Where are you located?

I already have 5 CRD's.... All of them are still running so I don't really need another, but I'm always on the lookout for one for parts. If you are near northeast Ohio, I am interested.

My advise: If you can't fix it yourself, it quickly becomes cost prohibitive to hire any major work done on these engines. Better off to sell it for parts or to someone that can fix it. At some point it will no longer be of enough value to fix it ourselves due to age (these things are 14+ years old now... and that is ancient here in the rust belt).

moonsista · **Joined:** Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:54 am **Posts:** 6

Im in Salt Lake City, Utah. A fair bit far from you. Thank you for you input. Im hoping to fix the metal rubbing noise coming from the driver side wheels. And baby her a long for a bit then im not sure what else im looking at that can go wrong with this beast. But I know her fate is coming sadly. Sounds like she sits and becomes a collectable or goes to a mechanic who can. Im just stumped at how to go about all this.

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carbcoma · **Joined:** Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:48 pm **Posts:** 86

I would not play around with any exhaust leak into cab. Fix before driving. You can turn fan output location select all the way to left to shut off outside air to cab, a great feature on these suvs.

TKB4 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:48 pm

If you are talking about the wheel bearings or maybe front drive shaft those things can be repaired by any reputable mechanic shop. They are the same or similar to gas Libertys.
There is a member here who goes by forum name Geordi who works on nothing but the Liberty CRDs around the country for their particular problems and services. You can send him a pm but I think he prefers emails. He did just work on CRDs near your area within the past month and generally lines up more than one to work on in an area that far away but thats for you to discuss with him if you are so inclined.

geordi · **Posted:** Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:44 pm

I'm here, someone called?

There are about 8,000 of these still on the road right now... And that doesn't count the people that have multiple of them that aren't even registered but not at a junkyard.
If you aren't able to do any of the work yourself, a Jeep may not be the best vehicle for you. That said, they are unique and worth maintaining. It doesn't sound like you have too much at issue with yours, and fixing a vehicle will almost always be cheaper than a car payment!

I'm happy to discuss your options at length, and if you'd like me to come work on yours, that is not a problem. I am also happy to provide an impartial opinion of your options for selling it, as you may imagine I have seen more than a few of them (over 100 now) and have a pretty good idea of what they can be worth in any given condition. Running and functional is always worth more than not running, obviously.

Email is the best way to get in contact with me (button below) because there has been a problem with the forum's PM system for a while now. Something is wrong with the notification system and I don't always see that I have a new message even though I'm here just about daily.

flash7210 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:11 am

moonsista wrote:

Dose any one still have their CRD on the road? Mine is at 120k, 2006 she needs some work done. Possibly the bearings and a exhaust leak (minor into cab). At this point I'm deciding whether to fix and keep on keeping on or to sell (possibly part out). I'm not able to do the work my self. And not sure what other issues i might need to look out for.
Already replaced transmission, new rocket rods, rear window, recalls, belts, filters, alternator.
Possibly needs struts and new battery.

Any opinions? Or CRD collectors with help on how go about this?

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All those things are fairly easy to fix. Though not necessarily cheap if you cant do it yourself.

The exhaust leak seems weird.
You should be able to hear an exhaust leak.
Most likely places are where the the exhaust pipe clamps to the turbo, or the flex joint underneath the passenger seat.
The fact that you can smell it seems odd. Like maybe there is a hole in the firewall or floorboard or something.

If you decide you dont want to keep it you could probably sell it whole to someone who is willing to fix these relatively minor problems.

What are "rocket rods?"

moonsista · **Joined:** Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:54 am **Posts:** 6

The Jeep service dealership told me they had to replace all the "rockets rods" in the engine when it stop suddenly on road along with a broken belt. A few years back.

Dealing with the dealership has been a nightmare. Again this time around they told me the they can not hear any sounds and its fine there's nothing wrong at all with the jeep. However there clearly is several things wrong. To start, is the mystery metal/grinding sound coming from the wheel area when moving but not when breaking. Multiple mechanic friends (no longer workin in mechanics) have told me to check the bearings and u joints.
2nd exhaust coming into the cab the dealership then rechecks and says its is from the full injector and that will be $1400. In addition to trying to charge me $70 for a $30 belt to fix a chirping sound. .
I'm trying to quick learn about everything mechanical so I can keep this lovely beast but I know enough to call B.S on the dealership. But also need to find out what else has been know to go wrong at this point.
Thanks for all you input =)

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moonsista · **Joined:** Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:54 am **Posts:** 6

geordi wrote:

I'm here, someone called?

There are about 8,000 of these still on the road right now... And that doesn't count the people that have multiple of them that aren't even registered but not at a junkyard.
If you aren't able to do any of the work yourself, a Jeep may not be the best vehicle for you. That said, they are unique and worth maintaining. It doesn't sound like you have too much at issue with yours, and fixing a vehicle will almost always be cheaper than a car payment!

I'm happy to discuss your options at length, and if you'd like me to come work on yours, that is not a problem. I am also happy to provide an impartial opinion of your options for selling it, as you may imagine I have seen more than a few of them (over 100 now) and have a pretty good idea of what they can be worth in any given condition. Running and functional is always worth more than not running, obviously.

Email is the best way to get in contact with me (button below) because there has been a problem with the forum's PM system for a while now. Something is wrong with the notification system and I don't always see that I have a new message even though I'm here just about daily.

Yes please, I am still hold out hope that I can fix and keep her perhaps we can work out a deal and you could work on and teach me a few things. If indeed there's nothing substantial devastating. How do I email you.

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GordnadoCRD · **Posted:** Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:47 pm

Perhaps they meant rocker arms, but I've never heard them called "Rocket Rods" either.

The grinding sound from the wheel area sounds a bit like the tie rod ends were installed on the wrong sides.

Regarding Exhaust coming into the cab, I believe Flash is correct, most likely coming from the joint where the exhaust pipe clamps to the turbo. Alternative sources could be exhaust manifold gasket, or the "stupid pipe" that carries exhaust from the end of the manifold, around the rear of the engine, to the EGR.

In any case, if it's leaking there, the exhaust could be sucked into the cabin through the air supply opening directly rearward of the coolant bottle. There is a tiny gasket intended to prevent exhaust from getting there, but if any tears or compression set have changed the integrity of this body gasket, even a small bit of exhaust can smell pretty strongly unless you are using fry oil as fuel.

moonsista · **Joined:** Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:54 am **Posts:** 6

GordnadoCRD wrote:

Perhaps they meant rocker arms, but I've never heard them called "Rocket Rods" either.

The grinding sound from the wheel area sounds a bit like the tie rod ends were installed on the wrong sides.

Regarding Exhaust coming into the cab, I believe Flash is correct, most likely coming from the joint where the exhaust pipe clamps to the turbo. Alternative sources could be exhaust manifold gasket, or the "stupid pipe" that carries exhaust from the end of the manifold, around the rear of the engine, to the EGR.

In any case, if it's leaking there, the exhaust could be sucked into the cabin through the air supply opening directly rearward of the coolant bottle. There is a tiny gasket intended to prevent exhaust from getting there, but if any tears or compression set have changed the integrity of this body gasket, even a small bit of exhaust can smell pretty strongly unless you are using fry oil as fuel.

Yes I think "Rockets arms" would be the correct wording. Bare with me, im new and still learning and teaching myself.
Thank you, this helps im doing a lot of research and will have my mechanic buddys help me look into this.

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moonsista · **Joined:** Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:54 am **Posts:** 6

Im not sure about the tie rods. As the grinding sound only started after I went mudding/4xwhelln on the mud/salty beach desert. At first thought I got a rock stuck but had the breaks changed and tires rotated and still making the sound. What u think?

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GordnadoCRD · **Posted:** Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:34 am

well, I'm just guessing based on what might have been done..

If those suggestions ring no bells, It's a snipe hunt then.
Anything making a grinding noise like you describe, will be making some pretty definite marks. If you can see nothing obvious in assembled condition, jack it up on blocks, or rack or whatever you have available that is stout and won't collapse or tip over. Start removing one thing at a time, and checking for rub marks.

TKB4 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:03 am

If it still has the chirping sound that seems related to a belt or if the belt didn't fix that sound it is likely that it could be the alternator decoupler pulley especially if there is some reddish color dust associated with that area.

flash7210 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:19 am

The metal grinding sound could be:

A. Brake dust shield rubbing against the brake disc

B. Worn brake pads

C. Dragging brake caliper

geordi · **Posted:** Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:04 am

Ah yes - I forgot about the brake shields! Those things are thin metal and could EASILY be in the wrong place / bent from dirt building up or romping through mud. And they would make a LOT of noise for a very small part, might not be noticed when changing the brake pads on the calipers.

timothyd · **Joined:** Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:58 am **Posts:** 90

I actually had that exact issue on a rear dust shield, just barely touching the rotor, was usually pretty quiet but sometimes very loud. The rear ones seem to float based on the parking brake pads, I just had to bend it back a little bit, it did take some fussing since bending it one way seemed to make another side touch.

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