Mountainman wrote:
I think since you have power for the reader that you have power to the ecu, but I'm away from home and can't look it up for a day or two.
I believe that's the case, at least from what I've been able to dig up. If you can confirm, though, I'd definitely appreciate it.
foxmiles wrote:
Oh man! I'm sorry she broke on you! Hopefully it will be something simple. I just got back from a 8hr (each way) trip, but mine did good, EVIC claimed 33mpg, but it's pretty optimistic.
I hear you. Third time I've done this trip this year; third time something's gone out on me. Ugh.
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My bt reader will connect to the TCM when the ecm stops responding. I figured that out while I had the ram tcm in, as it read about half the rpm the engine was actually doing. It would get rpm and throttle position as I recall.
Interesting. What's your setup for pulling codes? I'm just using a run-of-the-mill ELM327 adapter and Torque Pro. It's getting zero communication from the ECU; wasn't aware that there was a possibility of it passing through to the TCM.
biggfisch wrote:
These were exactly the symptoms I experienced this summer, sans dying in a drive thru (see thread:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=90166)
Funnily enough, I remember reading that thread a couple of months back and thinking, "ugh, that really sucks, hope he gets it sorted out without too much trouble".
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First the bad news... on mine the ECM had gone out. Not saying that's what's going on here, but the no crank condition w/key but cranks (no fire) on jumped relay seems telling.
Yep. Correlation isn't necessarily causation, but if it quacks like a duck, it's probably not Toledo, Ohio, either.
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I finally figured out that putting the ECM in the freezer for a bit would result in correct operation, but it would die again once everything came back up to temp.
Couldn't hurt to give it a shot, but I'm not holding my breath - temperatures got down to 30°F last night, and were around 42°F when I first tried to crank it this morning, so don't believe that it's a heat-related issue. That said, metal contraction, etc. could play a part. Might give it a shot in the morning.
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Now the good news... Looks like there's a plethora of used ECM's on car-part.com for around 300 smackers. If you can find one nearby at a salvage yard (full service or U-pull), you might be able to convince the local stealer to reprogram it, or send it to GDE if you have time. I sourced a tuned one from a member, (shout out to my boy TKB4) and gave GDE $100 to reprogram my VIN into it, and the turnaround was about a week from source to to my door. Haven't had an engine issue since (balljoints however....)
It's looking increasingly as though this is the route I'll have to take (well, except for the GDE part). The dealer wants $125 for the reprogram; given that right now the KJ is basically driveway decoration and the next-nearest dealer is 25 miles away, they've got me.
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If you are near the OKC area, and suspect the FCM/Gateway module, I have a spare I can bring ya, but as demonstrated by the youtube vid, you should still get a 3 second start if its kaput. Hopefully, it's just an issue with the wiring. I'd start with the lower half of the ECM plug harness, as I found this was the half that controlled the communication bus and "let's start the engine" signal. I can't remember if the pinout had a 12V wire on there or not.
Thanks - and yep, we are in the OKC Metro. Let's yak further about it when I get back.
turblediesel wrote:
Silly long shot... replace the key battery.
Not silly at all - did that about 6 weeks ago when I was having some RKE problems. It *should* be good, but I can swap it out with another.
Related to that, my wife is getting her key (which is in much better shape than mine) out in the mail to me tomorrow, so I should hopefully be able to rule that out by Thursday or so. It'll also let me bring both keys to the dealer at the same time if the ECU needs to be replaced.