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Author: | PZKW108 [ Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Detroit truetrac |
Anybody has install a Truetrac in front in the dana 30a in front of the KJ. Also anybody has feedback driving it in the winter ? Thanks |
Author: | thesameguy [ Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
I have one in the back of my XR4Ti. Does that help? ![]() |
Author: | WWDiesel [ Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
I believe I remember reading a post a few years back that it is not recommended to install a locker in the front differential due to the weakness of the 30a case in the pinion bearing area. ![]() |
Author: | ATXKJ [ Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
I have Front and Rear Truetracs Front is great on snowy roads - pulls through the corners - no problems. Rear is more of an issue - if one wheel slips - all torque transfers to the other and so they both spin if I try to accelerate - I powerslide the corner. if I did it again - I'd put an ARB manual locker in the rear so I could control it. What I've heard on the broken front diff's is that people where trying to accelerate uphill - bounced the front end and when the tires caught traction it split the case - I never had any problems I will add that just about everyone at Moab - had a collar on the front differential didn't see any Photos left - but the thread was http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5187 |
Author: | PZKW108 [ Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
WWDiesel wrote: I believe I remember reading a post a few years back that it is not recommended to install a locker in the front differential due to the weakness of the 30a case in the pinion bearing area. ![]() Locker no go but the Truetrac is more like a LSD should't be a problem. |
Author: | PZKW108 [ Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
ATXKJ wrote: I have Front and Rear Truetracs Front is great on snowy roads - pulls through the corners - no problems. Rear is more of an issue - if one wheel slips - all torque transfers to the other and so they both spin if I try to accelerate - I powerslide the corner. if I did it again - I'd put an ARB manual locker in the rear so I could control it. What I've heard on the broken front diff's is that people where trying to accelerate uphill - bounced the front end and when the tires caught traction it split the case - I never had any problems I will add that just about everyone at Moab - had a collar on the front differential didn't see any Photos left - but the thread was http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5187 Glad to hear it's not an issue cornering in the winter ! I have a Truetrac in the rear, I absolutely love it in the winter I found it gave great traction and easy to control for cornering, way better than the OEM LSD. Do you have an 05 or 06 ? |
Author: | ATXKJ [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
05 - originally open diff although Austin only gets snow once every 6-7 years so it only saw snow when I went to Colorado or Utah and if I'm being careful - it doesn't slip - only if I'm pushing it. |
Author: | CATCRD [ Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
I've had a truetrac in the rear for more than 5 years. Still love it. The unintended powerslides in the snow are almost eliminated by just running in 4WD FT. I installed an eaton elocker in the front about 2 months ago. What an upgrade. I haven't done any rock crawling or anything extreme with it yet. Mostly using in mud and snow to get to my mountain property. It's incredible to flip that switch and just chug up snowy grades that I would've had to power through with momentum, wheelspin, and road damage. Highly recommend this combo for uses like that. |
Author: | PZKW108 [ Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
CATCRD wrote: I've had a truetrac in the rear for more than 5 years. Still love it. The unintended powerslides in the snow are almost eliminated by just running in 4WD FT. I installed an eaton elocker in the front about 2 months ago. What an upgrade. I haven't done any rock crawling or anything extreme with it yet. Mostly using in mud and snow to get to my mountain property. It's incredible to flip that switch and just chug up snowy grades that I would've had to power through with momentum, wheelspin, and road damage. Highly recommend this combo for uses like that. I would like to go that way as well........ But the E-locker is twice the price ![]() You still have the stock Dana 30a in the front ? |
Author: | CATCRD [ Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
Well it was my spare diff from a gasser. I installed the locker into it and then dropped the original for the swap. |
Author: | Mountainman [ Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
I ran DTT for several years in all conditions. It worked great for what it is. I have the complete front dif with the DTT all ready to bolt in for sale after I went to an ARB up front. Still for sale... |
Author: | KJ/toy [ Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
Mountainman wrote: I ran DTT for several years in all conditions. It worked great for what it is. I have the complete front dif with the DTT all ready to bolt in for sale after I went to an ARB up front. Still for sale... How does the ARB compare to the DTT up front? |
Author: | Mountainman [ Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
KJ/toy wrote: Mountainman wrote: I ran DTT for several years in all conditions. It worked great for what it is. I have the complete front dif with the DTT all ready to bolt in for sale after I went to an ARB up front. Still for sale... How does the ARB compare to the DTT up front? It's good for careful wheeling, just dont let your tires spin much. |
Author: | Josh P [ Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
thesameguy wrote: I have one in the back of my XR4Ti. Does that help? What year? I have an 85
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Author: | PZKW108 [ Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
I've installed a TrueTrac on a 92 XJ today, this as well as new 4.56 gear. The TrueTrac in the front feel pretty transparent in 2WD and 4WD full time, I didn't see any difference than with the open diff. It turn normally on a icy parking lot and give excellent traction to exit the corner, really happy about the result. On the other side if you have to reset pinion depth, pinion bearing preload and backlash on the Dana 30 it can be time consuming and a PITA !!! I think the TrueTrac in the front pass the test for a daily driver in the winter ![]() |
Author: | Rrusse11 [ Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
"The TrueTrac in the front feel pretty transparent in 2WD and 4WD full time" 'Scuse my ignorance here, but in 2WD the default is front wheel drive? I've got a Peloquin (Torsen style LSD) in my fwd Golf, and love it. On my wish list of mods for the CRD I'd like to install a Truetrac, but assumed that the default 2wd system was driving the rear wheels, and that was where to instal same. Cheers |
Author: | Grotsoldaat [ Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
Rrusse11 wrote: "The TrueTrac in the front feel pretty transparent in 2WD and 4WD full time" 'Scuse my ignorance here, but in 2WD the default is front wheel drive? I've got a Peloquin (Torsen style LSD) in my fwd Golf, and love it. On my wish list of mods for the CRD I'd like to install a Truetrac, but assumed that the default 2wd system was driving the rear wheels, and that was where to instal same. Cheers Nope, KJ is always RWD when in 2WD mode. |
Author: | Rrusse11 [ Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
"Nope, KJ is always RWD when in 2WD mode." Grotsaldaat Thanks, whew, thought I was losing it. One in the front may be helpful offroad, or for those who focus on that performance factor. As a daily driver, I'm thinking a Truetrac in the rear would be more suitable for my style/usage of the CRD. A recent 8" of snow was a revelation though on the Jeeps' capabilities in slippery conditions. |
Author: | PZKW108 [ Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:46 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
Rrusse11 wrote: "Nope, KJ is always RWD when in 2WD mode." Grotsaldaat Thanks, whew, thought I was losing it. One in the front may be helpful offroad, or for those who focus on that performance factor. As a daily driver, I'm thinking a Truetrac in the rear would be more suitable for my style/usage of the CRD. A recent 8" of snow was a revelation though on the Jeeps' capabilities in slippery conditions. I should have start this tread saying the vehicle already have a rear locker. Then is a TT in the front will be OK for a daily driver in the winter , because a lunchbox is not for sure ! Now from my experience with the XJ so far, the TT in the front doesn't creates any adverse effects to the steering of the vehicle on icy surface !! |
Author: | Rrusse11 [ Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Detroit truetrac |
"TT in the front will be OK for a daily driver in the winter , because a lunchbox is not for sure !" Lunchbox? I got the TT as the TrueTrac. Cheers |
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