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 Post subject: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:34 am 
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I've been working on my KJ CRD I acquired last year and the project has quickly snowballed. Long story short, now the engine is on a stand in front of the jeep rather than in the jeep. It ran beautify before. There's 240k on the clock and at 190k a lot of work was done on the fuel system (new CP3 and injectors). I got it at about 235k. I know it needs an intake system cleaning really bad. So things are going to come apart, and a full rebuild it just a few more bolts.

That brings me to rockers and valves. I doubt the valves have ever been replaced and there's no way to identify if they are the ones that may drop a face off, correct? It may be getting Manley replacements if these are original. The rockers I have heard are different, but I cannot find and pictures comparing the two or if they have and identification on them to tell the old rockers from the new. If they've been replaced with the new ones and are not worn, it would be nice not to replace them again. In all likelihood they are probably original, but the more I can definitively piece together, the better. So, what are the keys to identifying the new rockers?

I'm going to start disassembling this weekend, I hope.

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:45 pm 
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The pivot pins in the rockers wear causing extra play. Mine had an obvious difference between old and new when I replaced them at 70,000 miles.


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 Post subject: Re: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:33 pm 
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I can't remember the differences, but I believe I bought mine at idParts. They had the updated rockers, and everything else when I tore into mine.

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Rebuilt head, new valves
ARP studs
New rockers
New timing components
New thermostat
Updated glow plugs
New clutch fan
2nd gen fuel filter assembly

2005 Liberty CRD
2nd gen fuel filter assembly
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 Post subject: Re: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:21 pm 
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I found wear on several of the rocker contact surface to the valve stem. I also found wear on several exhaust valve stem tips, so I determined I should replace my set. $$$

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2004 Volvo S60R M66
2000 Volvo V70R M66
1976 Volvo 245 Wagon M46
1997 Dodge Ram 6BT NV4500
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD NSG370
1983 CX650TC
I have a turbo/manual transmission problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:02 pm 
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When you were a kid, did you used to get in trouble for taking things apart and never putting them back together?
:ROTFL:

At 240k you are more than likely going to see cracks in the head between the intake and exhaust valves. Have a machine shop hot tank and pressure test it. I'd recommend at least replacing the head gasket, valves, valve stem seals, rockers and installing ARP head studs. Also have the intake cleaned.

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 Post subject: Re: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:19 pm 
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I think that this should get your approval.

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Figuring out how to embed an image is a trick.

I think I'm about 8 months into this, so I was wondering if I'd get it back together again.

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2004 Volvo S60R M66
2000 Volvo V70R M66
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1997 Dodge Ram 6BT NV4500
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD NSG370
1983 CX650TC
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 Post subject: Re: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:07 pm 
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You will. It looks great!


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 Post subject: Re: Identifying new and old rocker arms
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:51 pm 
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Very nice! If you need a refresher for assembly, I have a video on YouTube you can use as a guide.

https://youtu.be/EkYQ5PUOJNQ?feature=shared

Keep up the good work!

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