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Author:  mtbdemon [ Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Glow plug replacement

I’m getting a bad glow plug code and none have been replaced as far as I know
My question

I have decent mechanical skills and curious if these are easy to replace.?
I use my jeep for winter activities and many times overnight so it cold soaks at 10 degrees over night. Would it be a good idea to get better winter glow plugs or stick with stock? Thanks

Ken

Author:  seafish [ Fri Feb 23, 2024 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

Haha...replacing the glow plugs is the easy part...but first getting access to them and then later bolting all those parts back is a little more complicated. :wink:

In short, getting clearance to place a 10mm socket on ALL of the glow plugs involves removing the battery, the alternator, which means at least first loosening the serpentine belt tensioner, and then also removing the intake elbow, which means disconnecting the intake elbow from the intake, the dipstick, a hard line clamp and ALSO the EGR valve exhaust pipe... THAT part is NOT so easy...patience, good lighting, good eyesight, good tools INCLUDING several long, 1/4" drive ratchet extensions with a decent wobble tip are key here!!! Removing the intake elbow involves working both beneath and on top of the engine.

Even then, after hopefully easily replacing the glow plugs (PB Blaster and compressed air are your friends here... both to loosen up the glow plugs and to keep ANY debris from falling into cylinders), you STILL need to put it all back together again!!! And, I gotta say that, at least for me, reconnecting the intake elbow to the EGR valve exhaust pipe while still keeping the elbow aligned to the intake was the most intricate and difficult part of this job!!!

Oh yeah, if any or all of the glow plugs seem difficult to turn counterclockwise while removing them, be SURE to patiently and slowly work them BOTH in and out of the cylinder head...alternately loosen them a little and then tighten just a little, in order to clear the threads...in other words, do NOT use too much force by simply trying to back them out or you might come to regret that. A little PB Blaster can help here too , but be sure to clear any debris with compressed air before finally removing the glow plug.


All that said, do NOT let my words discourage you..its fun when it’s done!!!

Of course it also goes without saying that it helps ALOT to have an assistant who can at least hand you the correct tools and help focus a good work light as you are laying under the Jeep.

Author:  WWDiesel [ Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

If you can remove ALL that EGR crap, it makes working on that side of the engine so much easier and your engine will love you for it. :D

All the EGR crap removed:
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EGR Removal Parts
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Author:  DieselJeepLuvr [ Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

What's the code? You can replace them with the Bosch 5v ones. Do NOT buy the Etechno ones. They are garbage.

Author:  mtbdemon [ Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

Thanks soooo much for the helpful tips. I’m on he fence if I should try this. I’ve removed and or replaced a few of these items including the serpentine belt but at my age good light is mandatory and don’t have an assistant. This is probably one of those projects I should leave for the professionals

Would the 5v be best for cold weather?

Author:  seafish [ Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

mtbdemon wrote:
Would the 5v be best for cold weather?


The 5v Bosch steel glow plugs are an excellent replacement for the 7v ceramic tipped ones.
Ideally you would also replace the control module to the 5V version, but anecdotal evidence shows that the 5v glow plugs continue to operate well with no damage even when they are run with the 7v module. There should be a white sticker near the top of the timing belt cover that gives information as to what glow plugs are in your car now.

Author:  CRDDude [ Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

seafish wrote:

The 5v Bosch steel glow plugs are an excellent replacement for the 7v ceramic tipped ones.
Ideally you would also replace the control module to the 5V version, but anecdotal evidence shows that the 5v glow plugs continue to operate well with no damage even when they are run with the 7v module. There should be a white sticker near the top of the timing belt cover that gives information as to what glow plugs are in your car now.



Seafish, I did this with a friend last year. My 2005 was throwing a code that said the #3 glowplug was bad. So when my car guy buddy was down here in AZ from Alberta we replaced the old 7 volt ceramic ones with the 5 volt steel Bosch. The bad glowplug code went away but now it's throwing another code...don't have the number at the moment but basically it something to the effect that my automatic tranny liberty is now thinking it's a manual tranny...the Jeep equivalent of gender confusion. :D So this control module you mention is it like a relay that can be unplugged and swapped out or are you talking about the actual engine computer? I'd like to get this darn code to go away so I can get it smogged.

Author:  CRDDude [ Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

CRDDude wrote:
seafish wrote:

The 5v Bosch steel glow plugs are an excellent replacement for the 7v ceramic tipped ones.
Ideally you would also replace the control module to the 5V version, but anecdotal evidence shows that the 5v glow plugs continue to operate well with no damage even when they are run with the 7v module. There should be a white sticker near the top of the timing belt cover that gives information as to what glow plugs are in your car now.



:D So this control module you mention is it like a relay that can be unplugged and swapped out or are you talking about the actual engine computer? I'd like to get this darn code to go away so I can get it smogged.


Well I just found the module on ID parts. It is a little Bosch relay dingus. But it says that the ECU must be programmed for the 5 volt glow plugs. I've seen posts here on this forum from people who have swapped the 7 volt ceramic out for the 5 saying they did not need to reprogram their ECU...at 35 bucks I may just give it a try and see.

Author:  WWDiesel [ Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

Many owners have replaced the 7v glow plugs with the Bosch 5v plugs with no issues.
But if you prefer to reprogram the ECM to accommodate the 5v plugs, you can reach out to Marco aka Yeti on this forum and he can provide you with an improved program to operate the 5v glow plugs more efficiently. :rockon:

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Author:  CRDDude [ Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

Thanks WW. I'm going to order the relay and pop it in and see if that makes the code go away. If not I will reach out to Marco.

Author:  Turboman280 [ Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

CRDDude wrote:
Thanks WW. I'm going to order the relay and pop it in and see if that makes the code go away. If not I will reach out to Marco.


I don't think this has any connection to the transmission issue. I am in Mesa also and am a new CRD owner. If you need a hand let me know. I have a good scan tool that should be able to read the transmission module.

Since messaging seems to be broken my number is 6zerotwo two92 nine3three2. Text and let me know who you are as I don't usually answer calls from unknown numbers.

Author:  CRDDude [ Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

Turboman280 wrote:
CRDDude wrote:
Thanks WW. I'm going to order the relay and pop it in and see if that makes the code go away. If not I will reach out to Marco.


I don't think this has any connection to the transmission issue. I am in Mesa also and am a new CRD owner. If you need a hand let me know. I have a good scan tool that should be able to read the transmission module.

Since messaging seems to be broken my number is 6zerotwo two92 nine3three2. Text and let me know who you are as I don't usually answer calls from unknown numbers.


Thanks Turboman. Likewise I am Four 8 Zero Six One 9 Eight Zero 55. I'm in NE Mesa near Falcon Field. I put this aside for a while as I am dealing with estate settlement craziness back east that has gotten even crazier due to Helene. I did order that Bosch glowplug controller module for the 5 V plugs and swapped it out...same shape module but different part number than the one that was installed so I am sure the installed one was for the old 7volters. Now getting two codes. The flasher/reader tool I got when I did the Green Diesel Engineering Ecotune oh so long ago is now showing both a P0610 which is the "I'm an auto tranny that thinks it's a manual" code and now added P0101 which is some sort of issue with the MAF. The MAF is easy to get at IIRC so I'll try cleaning and/or replacing that and see where it gets me. If that doesn't resolve I'll give you a ring and we can try and see if your scan tool will read that transmission module. Depending on how things shake out over the next few days...I am still in a holding pattern regarding travel back to NC to deal with hurricane damage on a home.

Author:  WWDiesel [ Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

Forget the MAF code, it is worthless, it is only used for EGR operation and can be unplugged or totally done away with with no ill effects. It has NO bearing on engine operation! :wink:

Author:  CRDDude [ Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glow plug replacement

Turboman280 wrote:

I don't think this has any connection to the transmission issue. I am in Mesa also and am a new CRD owner. If you need a hand let me know. I have a good scan tool that should be able to read the transmission module.

Since messaging seems to be broken my number is 6zerotwo two92 nine3three2. Text and let me know who you are as I don't usually answer calls from unknown numbers.


Appreciate the scan module assistance offer...sorry I have not gotten back to you sooner but have been busy with dealing with estate business back east. I just texted you this AM. I should be out here in AZ through early Feb. at least then will be going back to NC for a month.

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