Rock Rails (fab #3)(more pics pg3&4!!)

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:56 am

ok so im going to start on my rock rails mon and they should be done by the end of next week. my question is will 20 ft of square tubbing be enough? i took some measure ments and i think it should be enough. i know 30 would but the palce im trying to get the metal from will only sell it to me in 20 ft sections. its 47 bucks for 20 ft of 2" square tubbing. i dont want to buy 40 ft when i might only use 5 ft of it. what is weird is i got 30 ft of square tubbing from them last fall to make a set of sliders for a Land rover. anyways ill post pics when i get them done. im thinking of putting a round tube on them for steps as well but might add them at a later date.

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:48 am

main rail 5 foot long, 3 legs ,with two at 12 inches each and one just a shade shorter so 16 foot should do it I would say for both sides :wink:

so with that you have enough for 3 legs for the next set :wink:

Frostednutz · **Posted:** Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:49 am

if you have extra you could always use it to reinforce the rails. can never have to much reinforcements! make sure to use a hardened metal. easier to weld a crack then to bend tubing back into place!

Rush345 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:33 am

If your not shy about your handy work post some drawings and Pictures of you handy work. I don't have welding equipment but I want details so incase I find someone who does . I still want to find someone who will design an Exoskeleton to protect our KJ's during runs but still retaine the dailey driver status :twisted:

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:01 am

tommudd wrote:

main rail 5 foot long, 3 legs ,with two at 12 inches each and one just a shade shorter so 16 foot should do it I would say for both sides :wink:

so with that you have enough for 3 legs for the next set :wink:

yeah thats what i came up w/ today for measurements. the thing is i want to make angles (making a triangle) from the end legs for added strength. this is why i didnt know if 20ft would be enough. like this to give u an idea of what im talking about

ive also thought about making a triangle for the middle leg and have them connect to one plate this might just be over kill though. ill see when i get all this rolling on mon. maybe like this i guess (sorry im not that good at photoshop and its late!!)

or leave the angles i cut out and make smaller angles from the center one??? if i have the metal ill try it. i think i have some 1 1/2 " tube left from making Land Rover sliders so this might work if i come up short.like this

i think it looks better!!!

Rush345 · **Posted:** Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:57 am

I am in favor of the never enough armor or pretection. So play with you design and when you reach the point where your happy with the finished product let us know or if you need a tester I will happily volenteir. Keep us posted

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:00 am

Rush345 wrote:

I am in favor of the never enough armor or pretection. So play with you design and when you reach the point where your happy with the finished product let us know or if you need a tester I will happily volenteir. Keep us posted

you guys can count on that ill have pics up as soon as its done.

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:22 pm

ok so i picked up the metal for the sliders today. i got a great start and am more than half way finished. so you can expect to see some pictures tomorrow afternoon. im hoping to get some paint on them tomorrow and get them mounted up Wen.

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:52 pm

man you are fast, dont need anyone else , its a one man team!!I wouldnt think you would need the braces from the center leg but... it would be strong!!

Tom

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:44 pm

dang if your really that quick come help me do my rear bumper, its killin me

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:53 am

lol yeah i guess i did make them kinda quick maybe (3 today)5-6 hrs is all i should have in them if i dont run in to any problems. i just dread drilling the holes in the jeep. takes one heck a drill bit. oh and yeah i mad a rear bumper for a Land Rover in about 11hr total thats design and all. i dont use templets just work with metal. (measure 3 or 4 times!!). this is what i love to do and hope to do it for the rest of my life. its almost as much fun as wheeling :lol:

check back tomorrow for finished pics.( wont have them mounted i dont think. but might if the better half will let me work on them when i get home and get some bolts from lowes.

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:27 pm

so they are finished!!!! it took me another 4hrs of work on them today but they are finished. im very pleased with how they turned out and they are deff. strong. ill post pics here in a few but i wanted to share with u what about made me pass out today. on my way home i decided to pick up all the hardware to mount these babies up. when i go to check out i knew it would be high but 78 bucks was the total :shock:

. i got 24 1/2 bolts and nuts 16 3/8 bolts and nuts and 2 cobalt drill bits. the hardware cost more than the sliders cost me to make. this was a shock to me big time. im going to see if i can find this stuff any cheaper before mount these things up for sure. anyways back to the sliders ill get some shots up when i get the strength. i also plant to throw some primer on the and clean them up a little better.

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:01 pm

dang! that is really expensive, did you buy all Grade 8?

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:45 pm

Be interesting to see if Tractor Supply is any cheaper than where you got them!

BTW sent out my sketches/ drawings for possibly the next top secret project to you! :twisted:

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:02 pm

jsc7002 wrote:

dang! that is really expensive, did you buy all Grade 8?

nope grade 5 i couldnt afford grade 8. im going to see if i can get a better deal on them somewhere else before i mount them up.

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:18 pm

ok so here are a few pics for u. i still need to sand blast them and paint them etc. but there done. i didnt use any slanted peices on the legs since after talking it over w/ my welding teacher decided it didnt need them and would just add weight. trust me they are stong. i will post more pics when i get them painted and mounted.enjoy! i am wore out after making them in 2 days. they look great held up to the jeep and i cant wait to get them on and bash them on some rocks!! :twisted:

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:29 pm

dloc_jeep_KJ wrote:

jsc7002 wrote:

dang! that is really expensive, did you buy all Grade 8?

nope grade 5 i couldnt afford grade 8. im going to see if i can get a better deal on them somewhere else before i mount them up.

alright thats what I was checking b/c you really dont need Grade 8 bolts there anyways

SoDakJeep · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:44 pm

you got any drawings or specs on them looks good

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:01 pm

SoDakJeep wrote:

you got any drawings or specs on them looks good

no drawings but i can tell u the specs off the top of my head the main rail is 2"x2" 5' long w/ the ends cut at 45* (facing downwards); the legs are 12"(front door); middle leg 11"; the last leg is 10"(under back door); the plates on the ends of the legs are 6"x3"(legs r welded to the bottom not in middle) the holes were punched out not drilled; the tube that runs along the pinch weld is 1"x1" and around 4' long. i welded it all with a MIG welder except i had to lengthen the tube for the pinch weld so i TIGed it. main tip i have is to make sure not to get it to hot and warp the rails. u can run the weld beads in opposite directions and i also clamped it to a thick aluminum table. i am more than happy to answer any questions that anyone may have.

dloc_jeep_KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:03 pm

jsc7002 wrote:

dloc_jeep_KJ wrote:

jsc7002 wrote:

dang! that is really expensive, did you buy all Grade 8?

nope grade 5 i couldnt afford grade 8. im going to see if i can get a better deal on them somewhere else before i mount them up.

alright thats what I was checking b/c you really dont need Grade 8 bolts there anyways

yeah with the amount of bolts i used there is no nead for it. distributing the weight is the key there.

Rock Rails (fab #3)(more pics pg3&4!!)

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