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Author:  Liberty Titan [ Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Whoops...I'm gonna need that...
Here is a couple of videos from some play time. The first was a successful run and the second...well not so successful (watch under my jeep). If any of you have been reading posts in "general discussion" you may recall a post of mine about a bad sound? Anyway...these vids are from that same day.

http://www.netwerkz.ca/kingspark1.mpg

http://www.netwerkz.ca/kingspark2.mpg
Author:  Skyjump136 [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 1:10 am ]
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Looks like you need a longer bump stop or something to keep that spring in there! :shock:

You said in your other post that the shocks provide for too much travel...no such thing. You don't want your shocks topping out and thus limiting your flex. Go with a longer bump stop.
Author:  Liberty Titan [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:41 am ]
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Well you want your shock to travel more than your spring but ovbvioulsy there is such a thing as too much travel from your shock when comparing it to your spring (case in point...lol). Longer bump stops aren't going to help keep your springs in either. What BDS should sell with their lift kit is a bracket of some sort to keep the spring mounted to its base support but neither Jeep or BDS makes one...they both say that they don't expect anyone to be flexing a KJ like that. So what I need to do is spend 50$ on some limiting straps and attach them to keep my springs in place. Easy enough fix...hopefully.
Author:  Skyjump136 [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:54 pm ]
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Actually a bumpstop can help. It will catch the spring before it falls completely out. Then the spring hopefully reseats itself. You're right though...some sort of bracket is the way to go if you can fab it up.

You don't want your shocks topping out. That's not good for them and it limits your flex.
Author:  Eddo [ Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:11 pm ]
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Skyjump136 wrote:
You don't want your shocks topping out. That's not good for them and it limits your flex.


Mine top out all the time when fully flexing. No way to stop it unless you add some limiting straps or longer shocks. The shocks are the limiting factor in rear articulation for me. If I want a longer shock that the RSXs then I would need to have taller shock mount to keep them from bottoming out. Also according to Rancho's spec sheet the RSX17004 have an internal bump stop at full extension so that probably helps prevent damage.
Author:  mattnmette [ Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:46 am ]
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I started workin tis problem already and should have a set to prototype in about a week
Author:  Liberty Titan [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:31 pm ]
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Well BDS got back to me and this was their reply:

Daniel:

I had not ever heard of this before so I turned it over to Engineering for
an answer to this. They found that the rear shock box number was correct but
the shock cylinder that was in the box was wrong compared to the cylinder
used when they did R&D. The shock you received was 4.25" to long extended.
This is were the problem came from. The Shock cylinder has been switched on
the bill of materials and we are building them correctly today thanks to
your E-Mail. I will be getting a hold of North Shore Off Road to get some
of these shocks added to there next order so they can Warranty them to you.
Talk to Glenn @ North Shore when you ask about this warranty.

Thank You
David
BDS Product Improvement Manager

I was thinking maybe I should ask for new springs to go with the longer shocks...instead of vice-versa...it will give me more lift and more flex in the rear but then I will be back to having my front sitting quite a bit lower than my rear. What do you guys think?
Author:  cherokj [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:53 pm ]
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I was sure that the problem had to be in the shocks.
I would let the things leveled. Too much height at rear means more stress for the front suspension in the long term.And less front lift! Remember that the front diff goes down with less front lift with IFS.
Author:  Skyjump136 [ Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:38 pm ]
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cherokj wrote:
I was sure that the problem had to be in the shocks.
I would let the things leveled. Too much height at rear means more stress for the front suspension in the long term.And less front lift! Remember that the front diff goes down with less front lift with IFS.


I don't think there's much of an argument there. It's not like we're talking about a 12" lift in back and 2" up front. With just a small difference you'd be fine. I ran my rig with 2" up front and 3" in the rear for quite a while before I got the Frankenlift. Besides, if it made that much of difference in front end height then there would actually be less stress on your CV joints. They'd actually be at less of an angle.

You could swap out the rear coils with Skyjackers if you wanted. Or throw a 1.5" Daystar spacer back there. Its really up to you as to whether you think its worth it and you can live with being a little uneven.

I do know that I can flex like that and then some and have never come close to a spring popping out on me.
Author:  FL RENNY [ Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:59 pm ]
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That first video looks like you were in 2WD?
Author:  Jjay [ Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:11 am ]
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I just think its the wrong wheels. The secong video looks like the sand is too soft. At that speed your wheels wont grab causing to dig in.
I bet you wont have any problem going through this track if you take some pressure out. Leave your suspension alone, its all in the wheels bro.
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