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 Post subject: Location of canister purge solenoid
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:16 pm 
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I have a P0455 code on my 2003 Liberty that I'm trying to troubleshoot. One bit of information I've found indicates a stuck closed canister purge solenoid would set a P0455 code. Anyone have a diagram of the EVAP system and where that solenoid is at?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:16 am 
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did u check your gas cap?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:49 am 
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On the left side of the battery.

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I have been getting a P0442 code on and off for quite a while now which is a minor EVAP leak.
I have replaced the rubber hose at the evap canister and replaced the gas cap. I thought the gas cap got it because a day or two after i did the cap the light went out for about 2 months. Then last week it came back on with the same code.

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It's my understand that there is a "leak detection pump" (mounted on the top of the fuel tank) which pressurizes the fuel system upon startup to check for any leaks.

It runs off engine vacuum and monitored by the PCM. The PCM monitors the leak detection pump and depending on how hard it works, it determines whether there is a leak in the system and how big that leak is.

Here, read this:

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LEAK DETECTION PUMP MONITOR (IF EQUIPPED)
The leak detection assembly incorporates two primary
functions: it must detect a leak in the evaporative
system and seal the evaporative system so the
leak detection test can be run.
The primary components within the assembly are:
A three port solenoid that activates both of the functions
listed above; a pump which contains a switch,
two check valves and a spring/diaphragm, a canister
vent valve (CVV) seal which contains a spring loaded
vent seal valve.
Immediately after a cold start, between predetermined
temperature thresholds limits, the three port
solenoid is briefly energized. This initializes the
pump by drawing air into the pump cavity and also
closes the vent seal. During non test conditions the
vent seal is held open by the pump diaphragm
assembly which pushes it open at the full travel position.
The vent seal will remain closed while the
pump is cycling due to the reed switch triggering of
the three port solenoid that prevents the diaphragm
assembly from reaching full travel. After the brief
initialization period, the solenoid is de-energized
allowing atmospheric pressure to enter the pump
cavity, thus permitting the spring to drive the diaphragm
which forces air out of the pump cavity and
into the vent system. When the solenoid is energized
and de energized, the cycle is repeated creating flow
in typical diaphragm pump fashion. The pump is controlled
in 2 modes:
Pump Mode: The pump is cycled at a fixed rate to
achieve a rapid pressure build in order to shorten the
overall test length.
Test Mode: The solenoid is energized with a fixed
duration pulse. Subsequent fixed pulses occur when
the diaphragm reaches the Switch closure point.
The spring in the pump is set so that the system
will achieve an equalized pressure of about 7.5”
water. The cycle rate of pump strokes is quite rapid
as the system begins to pump up to this pressure. As
the pressure increases, the cycle rate starts to drop
off. If there is no leak in the system, the pump would
eventually stop pumping at the equalized pressure. If
there is a leak, it will continue to pump at a rate representative
of the flow characteristic of the size of the
leak. From this information we can determine if the
leak is larger than the required detection limit (currently
set at .040” orifice by CARB). If a leak is
revealed during the leak test portion of the test, the
test is terminated at the end of the test mode and no
further system checks will be performed.
After passing the leak detection phase of the test,
system pressure is maintained by turning on the
LDP’s solenoid until the purge system is activated.
Purge activation in effect creates a leak. The cycle
rate is again interrogated and when it increases due
KJ EMISSIONS CONTROL 25 - 3
EMISSIONS CONTROL (Continued)
to the flow through the purge system, the leak check
portion of the diagnostic is complete.
The canister vent valve will unseal the system
after completion of the test sequence as the pump
diaphragm assembly moves to the full travel position.
Evaporative system functionality will be verified by
using the stricter evap purge flow monitor. At an
appropriate warm idle the LDP will be energized to
seal the canister vent. The purge flow will be clocked
up from some small value in an attempt to see a
shift in the 02 control system. If fuel vapor, indicated
by a shift in the 02 control, is present the test is
passed. If not, it is assumed that the purge system is
not functioning in some respect. The LDP is again
turned off and the test is ended.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:26 am 
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If you have a copy of the Jeep Liberty service manual in PDF format, look at page 1356. It has a nice diagram of the fuel system.

I downloaded mine from www.scribd.com for free. It's been invaluable. :D

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 Post subject: Slight evaporative sys leak code
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:48 pm 
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When I read a code I think was the one you have, I went to the evaporation canister on the firewall and tightened a ring type nut on the horizontal surface where the vacuum line attached to it. It was in a tight spot so I used a stubby type box wrench to ease it tighter. I then hooked up a code reader and erased the code. It seemed to work.

Hope this helps.

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atleast ya didnt have to open the cargo tank access door to screw with the top of the tank

took me almsot an entire 6 pack to get through that crap

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