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 Post subject: Removable winch mounting options and wiring
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:30 am 
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I've decided to go with a WARN removable winch mount for the XJ. I need some help figuring out the best methods to wire this thing front and rear.

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Rear Location:

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I haven't done any research, but I naturally like this setup:

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Part Number: 37441 (12V)
Rated Line Pull: 9,000 lbs. (4080 kgs) single-line
Intended Use/Application: Vehicle Recovery / For Trucks and SUVs
Motor: 12V 4.6hp, Series Wound
Remote Control: Remote, 12' (3.7m) lead
Geartrain: 3-Stage Planetary
Gear Ratio: 156:1
Lubrication: Aeroshell #17
Clutch (freespooling): Sliding Ring Gear
Brake: Automatic Direct Drive Cone
Drum Diameter/Length: 2.5"/9.0" (6.4cm/23cm)
Weight: 104 lbs. (47 kgs.)
Wire Rope: 125', 5/16" diameter (38m, 8mm diameter)
Fairlead: Hawse
Recommended Battery: 650 CCA minimum for winching
Battery Leads: Front heavy-duty 7.5'/2.2m with quick connect plug
Finish: Argent Powder Coat

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Part Number: 39116 (12V)
Rated Line Pull: 6,000 lbs. (2720 kgs) single-line
Intended Use/Application: Vehicle Recovery / For Trucks and SUVs
Motor: 4.8 hp, Series Wound
Remote Control: Remote, 12' (3.7m) lead
Geartrain: 3-Stage Planetary
Gear Ratio: 156:1
Lubrication: Aeroshell #17
Clutch (freespooling): Sliding Ring Gear
Brake: Automatic Direct Drive Cone
Drum Diameter/Length: 2.5"/5.0" (26.4cm/13cm)
Weight: 72 lbs. (31 kgs.)
Wire Rope: 50', 5/16" diameter (15m, 8mm diam.)
Fairlead: Hawse
Recommended Battery: 650 CCA minimum for winching
Battery Leads: Front heavy-duty 7.5'/2.2m with quick connect plug
Finish: Argent Powder Coat

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 Post subject: Re: Removable winch mounting options and wiring
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:55 am 
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Okay, here's a parts list of what I will need. Let me know what I'm missing and I will update the list:

I wont need the front Quick Connect Power Cable since both above winches come standard with it.

Item #1
Sears DieHard Platinum P-1 Group Size 34 battery. The P-1 Platinum has 135 minutes of reserve capacity, 880 cold cranking amps, 4year free replacement and 100 month prorated limited warranty.

Item #2
20' /6m Quick Connect Power Cable; for rear of vehicle. Includes Power Interrupt Kit
PN 32963
$234.60
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24'/8m Quick Connect Power Cable; for rear of vehicle. Includes Power Interrupt Kit
PN 32966
$251.78

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 Post subject: Re: Removable winch mounting options and wiring
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:46 pm 
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For the back why don't you just get a set of 2 gauge heavy duty jumper cables and put a set of red SB175 connectors about a foot from the end. Save you some serious bucks and you would have a set of really neat jumper cables to boot. You can get the jumper cables for about $50.00 and the SB connectors for around $20.00

For what it is worth, my son has a removable front and rear set up and has never used the back and yes he is into serious off roading.

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 Post subject: Re: Removable winch mounting options and wiring
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:50 pm 
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just because it irks me no end and i'm that anal retentive...

I hate when they use the RED plugs.... RED is 24v. YELLOW is 12v.

as for the idea, I've contemplated the same issue. I want to keep my group 29 deep cycle in the trunk area, hooked to the cig lighter for charging with an isolator, and have the ability to put the winch in either the front or back, also with the receiver bracket.

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 Post subject: Re: Removable winch mounting options and wiring
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Grannysgoat wrote:
For the back why don't you just get a set of 2 gauge heavy duty jumper cables and put a set of red SB175 connectors about a foot from the end. Save you some serious bucks and you would have a set of really neat jumper cables to boot. You can get the jumper cables for about $50.00 and the SB connectors for around $20.00


After reading that suggestion elsewhere, the thought did cross my mind. But then I read that most cheaper jumper cables are inadequate for such purposes. And the adequate jumper cables are expensive, so then I found myself back to square one, lol. What I'll probably do is first measure how much length I'll need and consider having them custom built to specification. Warn sells two different lengths. If one of those lengths is near what I need, then I’ll probably go with Warn. If you shop around, you can find the Warn cables much cheaper than what I posted from their website.

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For what it is worth, my son has a removable front and rear set up and has never used the back and yes he is into serious off roading.


There lies the difference. My XJ is primarily used for utilitarian purposes and the removable rear winch mount will be used more for work. I must say, it's certainly peace of mind knowing that it's there when I'm in the back country. For the purposes of off-roading only, I can understand the lack of need for a rear removable winch mount. I guess one could argue that it's cheap insurance. But from a work perspective, I've already found times when a rear removable winch mount would have come in handy.

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 Post subject: Re: Removable winch mounting options and wiring
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sota wrote:
just because it irks me no end and i'm that anal retentive...

I hate when they use the RED plugs.... RED is 24v. YELLOW is 12v.


LOL, that's how I feel when I see the wrong fuel type in the wrong colored can, or when I see someone putting water in a blue can labeled "Kerosene". :banghead:

sota wrote:
as for the idea, I've contemplated the same issue. I want to keep my group 29 deep cycle in the trunk area, hooked to the cig lighter for charging with an isolator, and have the ability to put the winch in either the front or back, also with the receiver bracket.


Out of curiosity, what's your purpose for having a second battery?

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Your reasoning makes sense. For sure you can make a rear set up with a RED (dig) connector and some welding cable cheaper than you can buy a Warn made one. Up to you on how much effort you want to put into it in the end. Hate to pay Warn's mark up although I have Warn winches on both of my 4x4's. I did use 2 gauge on the winch hook ups as that is the size on the winch QDC.

Also know that red is generally 24 volt although we use see mostly gray SB175's on our industrial batteries. (forklift dealership)

Sota needs two batteries cause he lives in a deep freeze half the year! Grew up there, know what it's like.

Have a good one.

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