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 Post subject: Looking at trading KJ for Wrangler
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:07 pm 
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Im looking at trading in my 02 KJ for a Wrangler, what mpg would the 4 cylinder get with a 5 spd? and what about the 6 cylinder? Im needing somethin that gets better mpg but I want a Jeep

which sounds like the best deal to you? the 05 X?

2001 SE 4x4, 54,000 miles, 4 cylinder, 5spd, sound bar, soft top for $10,500

1999 Sport 4x4, 6 cylinder 5spd, 35,000 miles after market bumper $10,500

2000 4cyl, 38K $10,900

2005 X 4x4, V6, auto, 2in susp. lift, 32" pro comp tires, trail rated, sound bar 14,000 miles, front and rear bumpers, Hit in 2005 on front right corner. Replaced hood and right panel. No damage to the frame. Rebuilt title, has been inspected $12,900


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 Post subject: Re: Looking at trading KJ for Wrangler
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Im looking at trading in my 02 KJ for a Wrangler, what mpg would the 4 cylinder get with a 5 spd? and what about the 6 cylinder? Im needing somethin that gets better mpg but I want a Jeep

which sounds like the best deal to you? the 05 X?

2001 SE 4x4, 54,000 miles, 4 cylinder, 5spd, sound bar, soft top for $10,500

1999 Sport 4x4, 6 cylinder 5spd, 35,000 miles after market bumper $10,500

2000 4cyl, 38K $10,900

2005 X 4x4, V6, auto, 2in susp. lift, 32" pro comp tires, trail rated, sound bar 14,000 miles, front and rear bumpers, Hit in 2005 on front right corner. Replaced hood and right panel. No damage to the frame. Rebuilt title, has been inspected $12,900



If you want better MPG dont bother with a wrangler they dont get it trust me
I have an '02 I6 3 speed auto with some mods on 31" SS LTB's and on the highway maybe 16 mpg w/3.73's
the KJ with a lift and 245/75 MTR's auto 3.7 gets 18+
as far as what you posted

they all sound OK with out seeing them I can not say but I will tell you this
STAY FAR AWAY from the '05
wranglers in '05 never had a V6
and if the wreck was minor why the salvage title?


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A bit off topic, but Jason, how do you get 18mpg with a lifted KJ? Best I've done is 16mpg all highway. 18mpg was normal with stock tires and no lift.

Like Jason said, the V6 was not available in any of the TJs and the salvage title is suspicious, there would have to be more than cosmetic damage for them to total such a new Jeep.

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[quote="carroll952"]A bit off topic, but Jason, how do you get 18mpg with a lifted KJ? Best I've done is 16mpg all highway. 18mpg was normal with stock tires and no lift.

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A bit off topic, but Jason, how do you get 18mpg with a lifted KJ? Best I've done is 16mpg all highway. 18mpg was normal with stock tires and no lift.
Well when I'm not in the mountains(or in CO for that fact) but back home in SD I average about 18-20mpg's with my 5400+lbs POS,here in CO I can get 16-18 highway and 10 in town.


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Surprisingly i get better mileage with the TJ than the KJ. My Kj lifted 245/75/16 get around 12-13.5 on average and my TJ get around 15.5-18 on average with 31/10.5/15. Both are running BFG mudders.

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tjkj2002 wrote:
Well when I'm not in the mountains(or in CO for that fact) but back home in SD I average about 18-20mpg's with my 5400+lbs POS,here in CO I can get 16-18 highway and 10 in town.


how?! lol my KJ is pretty much stock i dont even have on my skid plate and the absolute best ive ever gotten is 19 and it was barely 19 it was like 19.23 or something


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tjkj2002 wrote:
Well when I'm not in the mountains(or in CO for that fact) but back home in SD I average about 18-20mpg's with my 5400+lbs POS,here in CO I can get 16-18 highway and 10 in town.


how?! lol my KJ is pretty much stock i dont even have on my skid plate and the absolute best ive ever gotten is 19 and it was barely 19 it was like 19.23 or something
For some reason my KJ loves 94 octane and in return does good on mileage.I'm fine in the flat lands but in the mountains it chugs gas.Was getting 23-25mpg's when not lifted and no armor,heck I got 22mpg towing 3000lbs from SD to WA doing 60-65mph(again no lift or armor).Sure miss those days :cry: .Oh and that's highway driving,city is like 16-17mpg's in the flat lands.


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Well, I didn't think about how flat it was out in LA. That must be a nice benefit to living out there, I just can't take the humidity. I'm a desert rat.

Well Troy does have 4.10s in his KJ, that will help alot in the highways. I usually get 15-16 on the highway, and 10 if it's all in town. Normally mine is around 13mpg, wish I could afford to replace my 3.73s with some 4.10s. I imagine if I just drove back and forth on the highway within the Central Valley here I'd probably do a bit better.

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For some reason my KJ loves 94 octane and in return does good on mileage.I'm fine in the flat lands but in the mountains it chugs gas.Was getting 23-25mpg's when not lifted and no armor,heck I got 22mpg towing 3000lbs from SD to WA doing 60-65mph(again no lift or armor).Sure miss those days :cry: .Oh and that's highway driving,city is like 16-17mpg's in the flat lands.


i live in KS and i dont get much flatter than this and i NEVER broke 20 highway and city crap i get something around 13 maybe 14 if im lucky man why does my jeep guzzle soo much more gas :?


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Well, I didn't think about how flat it was out in LA. That must be a nice benefit to living out there, I just can't take the humidity. I'm a desert rat.

Well Troy does have 4.10s in his KJ, that will help alot in the highways. I usually get 15-16 on the highway, and 10 if it's all in town. Normally mine is around 13mpg, wish I could afford to replace my 3.73s with some 4.10s. I imagine if I just drove back and forth on the highway within the Central Valley here I'd probably do a bit better.
Oh I did forget to mention I do have 4.10's,did get about a 2-3mpg boost after ditching the 3.73's with the 32" tires.Wish I could run 4.56's,I bet if I kepted it under 65mph I would be over 20mpg's again.


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tjkj2002 wrote:
Oh I did forget to mention I do have 4.10's,did get about a 2-3mpg boost after ditching the 3.73's with the 32" tires.Wish I could run 4.56's,I bet if I kepted it under 65mph I would be over 20mpg's again.


4.56s would definatly be nice, too bad we got stuck with the d30a up front.

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tjkj2002 wrote:
For some reason my KJ loves 94 octane and in return does good on mileage.I'm fine in the flat lands but in the mountains it chugs gas.Was getting 23-25mpg's when not lifted and no armor,heck I got 22mpg towing 3000lbs from SD to WA doing 60-65mph(again no lift or armor).Sure miss those days :cry: .Oh and that's highway driving,city is like 16-17mpg's in the flat lands.


i live in KS and i dont get much flatter than this and i NEVER broke 20 highway and city crap i get something around 13 maybe 14 if im lucky man why does my jeep guzzle soo much more gas :?
How many miles? Might need a new fuel filter and try a better gas.What oil wieght(engine)? Sticking with 5w-30 is good but 5w-20 will help more.What wieght of gear oil in the diffs? 75w-90 will do better then 75w140.Prper maintence and full synthics will help with a good gas.Oh and don't forget your air filter,PVC valve,and proper inflation of your tires.


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Guys there are soooooo many things that factor into the milage the KJ gets
my wife drive 99% city and acording to the over head computer thing she gets 13.8-14 MPG
wich is slightly off due to the fact that we travle around 1.1 miles and it counts 1 mile wich adds up
I got my numbers by filling the tank to full and driving a long highway trip and after a few tanks devide miles travled by gallons burned thus I got 18 and change
the computer claimed not quite 17 I used a GPS to count miles

The other thing that saves us on milage is our driving habits wich to some are slow but look at the money we save
we also do the proper maint. on the KJ at or befor it is due wich also helps

now the TJ dont care it gets crapy milage going slow or fast city or highway
but belive it or not it never gets less than 13 or better than 17 no matter what


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