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wildman · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:10 pm

ken wrote:

I found a hpD30 from a 87-88 cherokee non disconnect w/ 3.54's for $200.00 obo near me. Would this be good swap material?

Ken,
If your wanting an axle that is stock width then it isn't a bad start. You will need to replace the axle shafts to be able to use the 297 instead of the 260 u-joints. You could use stock axle shafts or aftermarket shafts that would then be stronger.

ken · **Posted:** Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:38 pm

Ok thanks. I passed it up. :wink:

Quicksilversurf917 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:13 pm

Can any other D60's fit in a KJ besides a 70's ford 250 D60 rear, and a 70's ford 350 HPD60?

ohv_kj · **Posted:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:20 pm

anything can work if you put enough time into it... heck i could run yota axles if i wanted to...it's just a matter of getting the things you need to make them work

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:19 pm

Quicksilversurf917 wrote:

Can any other D60's fit in a KJ besides a 70's ford 250 D60 rear, and a 70's ford 350 HPD60?

The Ford HP60's(through the '80's) is the only HP60,no choice really if you want a HP axle.There are other front D60's but they are all low pinion and most will be passenger side drop that can not be used in a KJ.You also have to really watch out with the rear D60's also,many are not worth the scrap steel.

For the front D60's.........

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/60_front/index.html

Quicksilversurf917 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:20 pm

what about a 14bolt rear?

wildman · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:37 pm

The other D60 that has not caught on yet is the Dodge out of 90's & 2000's trucks. They are drivers side drop too.

Rear axle is more open. And you can use a D60, 70 or the 14 bolt from a Chevy. If you follow Extreme 4x4 on Spike they just built a 14bolt front axle. It really isn't that hard to have an axle retubed. So you could do a drivers drop with a 14 bolt. But again the bad thing is that they are low pinion axles.

With today costs for used axles that may cost too much and need more repairs than you can think it is better to just build your own. You can get a Currie center section or any other manufacture for under $1,000.00.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:18 pm

wildman wrote:

The other D60 that has not caught on yet is the Dodge out of 90's & 2000's trucks. They are drivers side drop too.

I believe starting in the late '90's Dodge went to AAM axles,I know the 2000+ ones are,not a good axle.

Another rear axle to keep a look out for are D70U's,D70 strength but with a smooth bottom with more clearance.They are mostly found in the '80's E350's,most also have 35 spline axles while some have 32 spline axles.

wildman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:33 am

tjkj2002 wrote:

I believe starting in the late '90's Dodge went to AAM axles,I know the 2000+ ones are,not a good axle.

It wasn't until 2002 or 2003 I think that Dodge went to the AAM axle.
What bad have you heard about the AAM axles? I have only heard good.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:50 am

wildman wrote:

tjkj2002 wrote:

I believe starting in the late '90's Dodge went to AAM axles,I know the 2000+ ones are,not a good axle.

It wasn't until 2002 or 2003 I think that Dodge went to the AAM axle.
What bad have you heard about the AAM axles? I have only heard good.

Lack of aftermarket support beside gear's.Also very weak unit bearings,which is the only option for those front AMM axles.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:09 am

Quicksilversurf917 wrote:

what about a 14bolt rear?

They are super beefy axles and cheap to build but unless you are running 42"+ tires you will severely regret that big axle back there,even if you shave the 1" off the bottom lip you will be dragging that diff across everything and hanging up big time with 35" or less tires.

wildman · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:20 am

tjkj2002 wrote:

Lack of aftermarket support beside gear's.Also very weak unit bearings,which is the only option for those front AMM axles.[/quote]

The unit bearing might be weak on the nose of a truck with a Cummins or Navistar diesel but I willing to bet they would last longer on the nose of a Jeep. Also you can get hub conversion kits for them if you HATE unibearings. And ARB is making lockers for them. I am not sure if any other locker manufacture is.

ken · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:35 am

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/1470882126.html
You mean like this one near me? I will call him today, to see if it's still available. Is this a good price for it? Am I looking to spend a bunch of cash to make it right for my application?

brown90 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:38 pm

how about axels off an CJ 20/30 axels? anybody ever look at the measurements?

CRD Joe · **Posted:** Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:09 pm

I have a buddy who owns a shop in Southern Washington. He and I are talking about an SFA using Spider 9's and some Hummer portal boxes. That way I could run some larger tires without a huge lift. The spider 9's (Ford 9") will allow for some really high ring and pinions (for strength) and with the 2 to 1 conversion of the portals you can dial in your R&P for whatever tire you choose. I need to keep my overall number on the high side because of the diesel engine.
http://www.spidertrax.com/products/spider-9

2006KJSPORT4x4 · **Posted:** Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:02 pm

For what its worth I'll be running a South American TJ HPD44 front axle (driver's side drop) with 4.56 gears and an OX cable locker (30 spline Alloy Chromo shafts in it). The rear will be a LPD44 (out of a '87 XJ) with 4.56 gears and a cable driven OX locker (33 spline conversion and big bearing kit performed on it too).

-Scott

Quicksilversurf917 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:28 pm

can Ford 8.8's fit in the KJ? They seem pretty cheap to buy and rebuild the whole axle

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:39 pm

Quicksilversurf917 wrote:

can Ford 8.8's fit in the KJ? They seem pretty cheap to buy and rebuild the whole axle

Yep,most even have the speed sensor already,not sure if the Ford speed sensor will work with the KJ's system though.

Quicksilversurf917 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:33 pm

Would it be a simple fix to swap the speed sensors?

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:47 pm

Quicksilversurf917 wrote:

Would it be a simple fix to swap the speed sensors?

I do not know if the sensors are the same size(hole in the diff) or the same depth,then you got the teeth count on the tone ring that will be different between the 8.25 and the 8.8 but that can be calibrated.

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