This sums it up nicely......
But it is also a labor of love.
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | My SFA parts list(JJ inspired) |
Front axle----- High Pinion Dana 44(mid '70's F-100)-----$175(used,complete drum to drum) Crane High Steer Knuckles-----------------$200(pair,new) Napa Ball Joints------------------------------$180(2 upper,2 lower,lifetime replacement) Napa Ford Hubs------------------------------$210(pair,new) Napa Premuim rotors----------------------------$140/pair Napa Wheel bearings/seals-----------------$100(2 sets,new) Napa Chevy Calipers------------------------$134(L/R,remaned with new pads and mount bolts) Warn Premium Lockouts--------------------$96(pair,new) 6 Hole Disc Brake Spindles-----------------$140(pair,new) Precision Gear 5.13 gears------------------$165 Precision Gear install kit--------------------$85 ARB Air Locker-------------------------------$775 TJ mount kit-----------------------------------$200 CTM U-joints----------------------------------$450/pair USA Alloy 30-spline Alloy axles-------------$650(Ford inners and Chevy outers) 1350 yoke-------------------------------------$120(new) Crane High Steer arm------------------------$150 Chevy Caliper mounts------------------------$150(pair,new) Set-up Labor-----------------------------------$200 Brake Lines-------------------------------------$100 Riddler D44-------------------------------------$100 Rear Axle-------------- Currie RockJock 60---------------------------$4000(new,$200 shipping) Consiting of---- 5.13 gears ARB Air Locker 35-spline alloy axles TerraFlex Ford Explorer disc brakes TJ mounts 1350 Yoke Brake Lines------------------------------------$120 Rear disc brake E-brake cables--------------$60 D60 Riddler cover-----------------------------$100 Tranfer Case------------ AtlasII 4.3-------------------------------------$2500(new,$100 shipping) Consisting of------- 4.3 low range cable shifters Rear flange,front 1310 CV yoke Suspension------------------- Rubicon Express TJ Long Arms-------------$1600(F/R and upper/lower arms,Chromoly) Front springs-RE1345,4.5" ZJ coils---------$150/pair Rubicon Express ZJ Nitro front shocks-----$150/pair Rear springs-OME 864's--------------------$150/pair Bilisten 7100 series 12" rear shocks ------$380 ACOS Pro front bumpstops-----------------$650(pair) Currie AntiRock------------------------------$350 Steering----------------------- Ford Steering Gear--------------------------$284(remaned) Ford Pitman Arm-----------------------------$78 24' 1 1/2"x0.281" walled--------------------$220(track bars,drag link) MOOG Tie Rod Ends-------------------------$260(all 4,lifetime replacement) Machining of Steering links(threading them)-$200 Wheels and Tires------------ 35x13.50x15 Toyo Open Country MT's-----$1500(5 tires) 15x10 ION alloy rims---------------------$300(5 rims) Lifetime mount/balance----------------------$100 MISC--------------------- Kilby Gas Tank Skid--------------------------$200 shipped Dakota Digital Speedo Adapter--------------$80 Nevada speedo AC signal generator--------$160 Wheel studs------------------------------------$40 Lug nuts----------------------------------------$60 Catco cat---------------------------------------$70 4 new OE O2 sensors-------------------------$210 Magnaflow 14416 muffler---------------------$60 Header wrap-----------------------------------$200 MISC................... High Angle Driveline front shaft--------------$375 High Angle Driveline rear shaft---------------$415 As stated my list is JJ inspired.I went a little overkill but I would rather buy it once them have to upgrade down the road,hence the higher prices.Oh and I don't like used parts,all parts are brand new besides the HP44 housing(housing only used) and the remaned steering box. Will be updating as the other parts are bought. |
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| Author: | JJsTJ [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:58 pm ] |
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This sums it up nicely......
But it is also a labor of love. |
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| Author: | corwyyn [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:56 am ] |
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Um... WOW! I got as far as the rear axle and my head started to swim from all the numbers 
Bet it looks killer once it's done  
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| Author: | Sport [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:17 am ] |
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I am sure there is a reason for it but why not keep the KJ transfer case? |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:51 am ] |
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Sport wrote: I am sure there is a reason for it but why not keep the KJ transfer case?
231 t-case--------- Weaker chain drive only 2.72:1 low range 26 spline front out put Slip-yoke for the rear(can be changed but is it worth the extra $1000 to do it?) No speedo port in the KJ case AtlasII t-case-------- Gear to gear driven 4.3:1 low range Twin stick operation(F/R output independitly controlled) 32 spline front output 32 spline rear output NO SLIP YOKE Speedo port (TJ,Ford,and GM) ****Virtually indestructable***** Like I said I'm willing to pay more the first time for good parts then have to spend alot more down the road to upgrade when weaker parts fail. |
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| Author: | Sport [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:34 pm ] |
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you guys sure know your stuff. |
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| Author: | USAFCOP [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:37 pm ] |
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tjkj2002 wrote: Sport wrote: I am sure there is a reason for it but why not keep the KJ transfer case? 231 t-case--------- Weaker chain drive only 2.72:1 low range 26 spline front out put Slip-yoke for the rear(can be changed but is it worth the extra $1000 to do it?) No speedo port in the KJ case AtlasII t-case-------- Gear to gear driven 4.3:1 low range Twin stick operation(F/R output independitly controlled) 32 spline front output 32 spline rear output NO SLIP YOKE Speedo port (TJ,Ford,and GM) ****Virtually indestructable***** Like I said I'm willing to pay more the first time for good parts then have to spend alot more down the road to upgrade when weaker parts fail. Don't let him fool you with justifying it... He only got the Atlas because I have mine...  Then he one upped going to the Rock Jock vs my 9"
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:07 pm ] |
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Quote: Don't let him fool you with justifying it... He only got the Atlas because I have mine... Then he one upped going to the Rock Jock vs my 9" Well it was between the AtlasII or RockTrac (really wanted the Atlas 4-speed,even before you had yourAtlasII).My RockJock was cheaper then the 9" I was going to build .
Going to have to start your list sometime,budget SFA vs a bigger budget SFA.Could open alot of new aspects for others wanting to do a SFA. |
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| Author: | JJsTJ [ Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:26 pm ] |
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I think allyrands was the most "budget" oriented so far. It is actually a cool way to go about it. He now gets to spend money upgrading which can be a fun thing. I get almost as much enjoyment out of the build process as I do actually using my Jeeps. I love having a project going on. |
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| Author: | Sport [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:34 pm ] |
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JJsKJ wrote: I think allyrands was the most "budget" oriented so far. It is actually a cool way to go about it. He now gets to spend money upgrading which can be a fun thing. I get almost as much enjoyment out of the build process as I do actually using my Jeeps. I love having a project going on.
Is there a break down somewhere on his SFA build up? |
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| Author: | USAFCOP [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:18 pm ] |
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JJsKJ wrote: I think allyrands was the most "budget" oriented so far. It is actually a cool way to go about it. He now gets to spend money upgrading which can be a fun thing. I get almost as much enjoyment out of the build process as I do actually using my Jeeps. I love having a project going on.
Well, mine is going to be a budget project, but you will all have to wait for the list as I leave Wednesday, and have better things to do than stress about how much I have/will pay for parts. If Troy or Marty want to do the list, I do not mind, or once I get overthere, but any spare time I have will be spent on school I think. Mine is using a lot of used/previous owner parts, here is so far: D44 High pinion front $100 (used) ARB $750 (new) 513 GearsW/install kit $ 215 (new) Install gears/ARB $350 Chev Hi Steer Knukles $100 (Used ebay) Ball joints, bearings, brakes and brackets will be same as troy (See above) Warn lock outs $30 (previous owner never installed) Ford 9" $ 75 (used) ARB $775 (new) 513 GearsW/install kit $ 205 (new) Install gears/ARB $250 Rear disc brake calipers from Nissan Maxima (e-brake)(??? Junkyard cores +new price) Sammi rotors/disks (??? Junkyard cores +new price) ( I was shocked too, but others report good results, especially since most of stopping power comes from the front. Will use standard u joints not 760s Atlas II Tcase ($1850 Previous owner, never installed, includes new parts from advance adapters to convert from TH400 to 45RFE, cable shifters, TJ electronic speedo) Custom drivelines (???) Steering gear, Suspension and belly pan will be same as Troy. 1/4" Belly pan estimate (~$500-$700 prototype price from Manufacturer) Dakota digital speedo adapter do not remember price (Previous owner, never used...thanks JJ) Wheels so far $40 (used) Most likely will buy good wheels, but these will work for now (wagon wheel steels) Tires (??? Whatever I find used or a good price... Steal Troy's Toyos But that would add years in jail, so no)
Kilby gas tank skid $200 to door (new) Exhaust hopefully >$600 And more RL secret stuff to make me street legal for WA DMV... So I am saving money using some proven used upgrades from the cherokee guys, that Marty found when we started to put it all on paper a year ago, but this is still going to be expensive, thus why I have been collecting parts for a year or more to spread it out... That and deployment money will help too. Like I said, next Fall/Winter, after it is all done, I will post like JJ did to try to compare Troy's cost to my cost to JJ's cost, then we will see how much deal finding and junkyard scrounging can really save you on this project, but it has to wait because of my "Vacation"  Unless Troy wants to do the compare based on his finished project.
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| Author: | tommudd [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:39 pm ] |
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Interesting you both just got your Kilby gas tank skids, I already have one so now all I need is .....well everything else, all the expensive stuff ! Thanks for the lists though , interesting to see everyones parts list and compare. It all works in the end, thats the great thing My buddy still has my old 79 Ford F150 that I bought new and put I think 4.88s/ detroits in, keep thinking I need to buy it back and strip it for parts, or just mount the KJ body on top of the frame.... Hillbilly/Redneck Engineering at its best |
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| Author: | Sport [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:18 pm ] |
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Sport wrote: JJsKJ wrote: I think allyrands was the most "budget" oriented so far. It is actually a cool way to go about it. He now gets to spend money upgrading which can be a fun thing. I get almost as much enjoyment out of the build process as I do actually using my Jeeps. I love having a project going on. Is there a break down somewhere on his SFA build up? Is Allyrand also known as Wally? |
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| Author: | USAFCOP [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:42 pm ] |
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Yep, it is he. As for the 79 axle Tom, you would need to double check if it has the cast or welded radius arm mounts on it. I think 79 was the first of the cast (can't be cut off easy). No good for KJ set up. Unless you can build it for the ford radius arms. |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:51 pm ] |
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USAFCOP wrote: Yep, it is he. Fixed it for you.
As for the 79 axle Tom, you would need to double check if it has the cast or welded radius arm mounts on it. I think 79 was the first of the cast (CAN'T BE CUT OFF UNLESS YOU RE-TUBE THE AXLE). No good for KJ set up. Unless you can build it for the ford radius arms. |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:00 pm ] |
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I thought mine were welded, it was one of the first off the line for 79 models, but will have to check it out next week, thanks for the info! |
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| Author: | JJsTJ [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:03 pm ] |
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TTT |
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| Author: | bugnout [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:18 am ] |
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Wow, thats $4500 on the front axle. Lot of premium parts your adding. 
I found a 76 F150 front axle complete end to end. That year had disk brakes so I'm thinking I could get away with just the following from your list. New Rotors and pads $150 New gears 4.88's $200 Gear install kit $100 ARB Locker $750 Crane High Steer Knuckles $200 Warn Premium Lockouts $100 Riddler D44 cover $100 TJ mount kit $200 Crane High Steer arm $150 Brake Lines $100 ------------------------------------------ Parts $2150 Labor $500 Anything I missed? |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:10 pm ] |
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bugnout wrote: Wow, thats $4500 on the front axle. Lot of premium parts your adding. Well if you want to run the Crane knuckles you will need to swap in Chevy small bearing spindles,brake caliper mounts,Chevy brake calipers,and Chevy outer stub axles since that is the only items that fit on those knuckles,Complete Offroad has new Chevy small bearing spindles.While your at it you will need new balljoints(about $180 from Napa),new hub seals/bearings(about $120 from Napa),and the inner axle seals do not come with any gear install kit and a good idea to replace when it's torn apart(about $40 from Napa).Then you go new axle u-joints also,the Spicer 760's are about $25 each(I used CTM's with lifetime warranty for $450 for the pair).So your kinda still low on the $$ for parts,now don't think this is trying to scare you away but building a full width front axle is pricey to start out but cheaper to maintain since most of the parts are lifetime warranty if bought through places like Napa.
I found a 76 F150 front axle complete end to end. That year had disk brakes so I'm thinking I could get away with just the following from your list. New Rotors and pads $150 New gears 4.88's $200 Gear install kit $100 ARB Locker $750 Crane High Steer Knuckles $200 Warn Premium Lockouts $100 Riddler D44 cover $100 TJ mount kit $200 Crane High Steer arm $150 Brake Lines $100 ------------------------------------------ Parts $2150 Labor $500 Anything I missed? |
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| Author: | bugnout [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:03 pm ] |
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tjkj2002 wrote: bugnout wrote: Wow, thats $4500 on the front axle. Lot of premium parts your adding. Well if you want to run the Crane knuckles you will need to swap in Chevy small bearing spindles,brake caliper mounts,Chevy brake calipers,and Chevy outer stub axles since that is the only items that fit on those knuckles,Complete Offroad has new Chevy small bearing spindles.While your at it you will need new balljoints(about $180 from Napa),new hub seals/bearings(about $120 from Napa),and the inner axle seals do not come with any gear install kit and a good idea to replace when it's torn apart(about $40 from Napa).Then you go new axle u-joints also,the Spicer 760's are about $25 each(I used CTM's with lifetime warranty for $450 for the pair).So your kinda still low on the $$ for parts,now don't think this is trying to scare you away but building a full width front axle is pricey to start out but cheaper to maintain since most of the parts are lifetime warranty if bought through places like Napa. I found a 76 F150 front axle complete end to end. That year had disk brakes so I'm thinking I could get away with just the following from your list. New Rotors and pads $150 New gears 4.88's $200 Gear install kit $100 ARB Locker $750 Crane High Steer Knuckles $200 Warn Premium Lockouts $100 Riddler D44 cover $100 TJ mount kit $200 Crane High Steer arm $150 Brake Lines $100 ------------------------------------------ Parts $2150 Labor $500 Anything I missed? OK, the seals and bearings make sense as does the u-joints. Besides swapping out the spindles, what are my options for high steer components? The 76-77 year axle is already setup for disks, thought I could take advantage of that and use the stock Ford parts. |
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