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Ok here is the last post for me on the SFA questions. I know everyone has their part list up so i just wanted to make sure the one i make is good and nothing else needs to be added on.

Dana 30HP non-vacuum-Comes with ZJ steering, i believe already high steer-XJ model
lift kit- Using either RE LA, RK LA, or whatever i can find atm i buy them
New TW driveshafts front and rear-
Using stock rear Axle and Stock Transfer case
Extended brake lines
Need a Steering pump
using stock rims with new meat's

Anything else that i am missing.

Oh reason for stock rims is, i wont be upgrading the rims until everything is done. once it is done where doing like one to two months of savings then buying new rims with bs in them.

Let me know if this looks good and what else i might be missing. Thanks everyone very much.

springs, and shocks.

Inc has a good parts list set up, that might be a start.

Ok i see what your saying INC. Maybe a XJ lift kit well work since it is a unibody frame, or just kinda mock them up using the XJ designs of the unibody structure for the KJ. An XJ lift would work though wouldn't? I know i can buy builder kit for the LA arms from a few vendors i know.

Acutally there are XJ kits that use rear coils?. Plus i already have a 4-link that i am thinking about getting from RK. All attaches to the sub frame. The front is what i don't know yet. For lift kits where trying not to spend 3k. I can get a builders kit and make a LA way cheaper than that and pick up metal for tabs and brackets and maybe spend about 1500.

there are a few companies like rokmen, gen-right, and a couple others

Really i still see them for sale on some websites. Really i have seen kits out their for the rear coil conversion for xj's.

So where can i get builder parts then to make a suspensions control arms.

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Wed May 20, 2009 6:14 pm ]
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Ok here is the last post for me on the SFA questions. I know everyone has their part list up so i just wanted to make sure the one i make is good and nothing else needs to be added on. Dana 30HP non-vacuum-Comes with ZJ steering, i believe already high steer-XJ model lift kit- Using either RE LA, RK LA, or whatever i can find atm i buy them New TW driveshafts front and rear- Using stock rear Axle and Stock Transfer case Extended brake lines Need a Steering pump using stock rims with new meat's Anything else that i am missing. Oh reason for stock rims is, i wont be upgrading the rims until everything is done. once it is done where doing like one to two months of savings then buying new rims with bs in them. Let me know if this looks good and what else i might be missing. Thanks everyone very much.

Author:	JJsTJ [ Wed May 20, 2009 6:45 pm ]
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JeepBumm68 wrote: Ok here is the last post for me on the SFA questions. I know everyone has their part list up so i just wanted to make sure the one i make is good and nothing else needs to be added on. Dana 30HP non-vacuum-Comes with ZJ steering, i believe already high steer-XJ model lift kit- Using either RE LA, RK LA, or whatever i can find atm i buy them New TW driveshafts front and rear- Using stock rear Axle and Stock Transfer case Extended brake lines Need a Steering pump using stock rims with new meat's Anything else that i am missing. Oh reason for stock rims is, i wont be upgrading the rims until everything is done. once it is done where doing like one to two months of savings then buying new rims with bs in them. Let me know if this looks good and what else i might be missing. Thanks everyone very much. The diff would be a high pinion out of an xj, not a high steer (unless made to be high steer). You won't need a power steering pump but you Will need a steering box.

Author:	KJ kyle [ Wed May 20, 2009 7:46 pm ]
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springs, and shocks. Inc has a good parts list set up, that might be a start.

Author:	Inc [ Wed May 20, 2009 7:49 pm ]
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KJ kyle wrote: springs, and shocks. Inc has a good parts list set up, that might be a start. I got my list off JJs and Wally's lists. I need to add brackets or mounts for long arms to my list of expenses. Check the sticky thread for a lot of helpful info.

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Wed May 20, 2009 8:17 pm ]
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i know that is why i put Dana 30HP- with a high steer system already setup on it hahaha. Ok sorry forgot springs and shocks Haha. Knew i was forgetting something. And thanks i meant to say steering box, i don't know why i am all puckered up today. thanks guys. I'll look at your guys list a little more. As for tabs and brackets i will have them on hand already.

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Author:	Inc [ Wed May 20, 2009 9:14 pm ]
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You probably know this but I'll say it anyway. You put "lift kit" in your original post and any whole TJ/LJ lift kit would be a waste of money on a SFA KJ project because you'd be buying a ton of stuff you can't use and don't want. Get the control arms, front and rear. Even most mounting brackets that come with the TJ/LJ kits won't work for your application. The Nth ones are sweet but cost a small fortune and as you can see, they can be made to work. I'm not sure how you'd make the brackets from a Rubicon Express or other big manufacturer work either. I figured since I am modifying a unibody jeep, why not look at other unibody lifts to see how they mount their stuff and then buy the long arms, or build them and then mount them like other unibody jeeps do. Hope that makes sense.

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Wed May 20, 2009 9:28 pm ]
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Ok i see what your saying INC. Maybe a XJ lift kit well work since it is a unibody frame, or just kinda mock them up using the XJ designs of the unibody structure for the KJ. An XJ lift would work though wouldn't? I know i can buy builder kit for the LA arms from a few vendors i know.

Author:	Inc [ Wed May 20, 2009 9:32 pm ]
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JeepBumm68 wrote: Ok i see what your saying INC. Maybe a XJ lift kit well work since it is a unibody frame, or just kinda mock them up using the XJ designs of the unibody structure for the KJ. An XJ lift would work though wouldn't? I know i can buy builder kit for the LA arms from a few vendors i know. I have been looking at WJ kits since the XJs rear suspension is completely different from a KJs, and seeing how they work. Every good or reputable manufacturer of long arm jeep lift kits sells control arms by themselves, so no need to get a kit really. All the other parts you'll need are such a frankenstein combination that a kit is unnecessary. I'll have ford, toyota, and jeep parts in my project. Most lit companies sell builder parts as well, such as mounts, crossmebers, trusses, etc.

Author:	USAFCOP [ Wed May 20, 2009 9:32 pm ]
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No XJ kit will not work unless you are going to switch the rear to leaf sprung

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Wed May 20, 2009 9:38 pm ]
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Acutally there are XJ kits that use rear coils?. Plus i already have a 4-link that i am thinking about getting from RK. All attaches to the sub frame. The front is what i don't know yet. For lift kits where trying not to spend 3k. I can get a builders kit and make a LA way cheaper than that and pick up metal for tabs and brackets and maybe spend about 1500. there are a few companies like rokmen, gen-right, and a couple others

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Wed May 20, 2009 9:49 pm ]
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read post haha

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Wed May 20, 2009 11:28 pm ]
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JeepBumm68 wrote: Acutally there are XJ kits that use rear coils?. Plus i already have a 4-link that i am thinking about getting from RK. All attaches to the sub frame. The front is what i don't know yet. For lift kits where trying not to spend 3k. I can get a builders kit and make a LA way cheaper than that and pick up metal for tabs and brackets and maybe spend about 1500. there are a few companies like rokmen, gen-right, and a couple others RK does not make those parts anymore,they got sued big time and scraped all the plans about 3 years ago. Oh and XJ lifts are rear leaf springs unless you go custom for the raer to go to coils or coilovers.

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Wed May 20, 2009 11:37 pm ]
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Really i still see them for sale on some websites. Really i have seen kits out their for the rear coil conversion for xj's. So where can i get builder parts then to make a suspensions control arms.

Author:	tjkj2002 [ Wed May 20, 2009 11:56 pm ]
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JeepBumm68 wrote: Really i still see them for sale on some websites. Really i have seen kits out their for the rear coil conversion for xj's. So where can i get builder parts then to make a suspensions control arms. All of those RK 7up lifts should have been scraped.I wouldn't trust it,just my opinion.

Author:	Rock Lizard [ Thu May 21, 2009 12:22 am ]
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Troy, I think he is talking about the XJ RockKrawler kits, but still check out NAXJA.com, jeepsunlimited.com, jeepforum, and do a search in the XJ sections for Rock Krawler to see what they say. I haven't done the search recently, but I have had several XJ customers that were happy at first, then less than a year later they hated it and wish they had gotten something else or had "customized" the RK kits to work better or last longer. If you want something different that has a great reputation that isn't Rubicon Express, then go with Clayton.

Author:	jsc7002 [ Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am ]
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wow that ballistic DOM tubing is high! $10 per foot for 1.75"x.120"

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Author:	Inc [ Thu May 21, 2009 1:04 am ]
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Rock Lizard wrote: go with Clayton. They make the set up I am either going with or going to model mine after.

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Thu May 21, 2009 9:42 am ]
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ok thanks guys for your input. i well keeping looking around too.

Author:	JeepBumm68 [ Thu May 21, 2009 10:10 am ]
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i am also looking at buying tubing and doing it myself. The tubing i am looking at is here. http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/DOM-Tubing-by-the-foot_c_18.html and here [/url]http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/DOM-Tubing-p-1-c-867.html[url] Then get brackets from those to also at these here links [/url]http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Brackets-and-Tabs_c_11.html[url] [/url]http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Brackets-Tabs-Trusses-p-1-c-792.html[url] [/url]

Author:	Inc [ Thu May 21, 2009 10:25 am ]
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The Ballistic Fab parts are some of the ones I was looking at as well. I prefer the Clayton ones because they wrap around the unibody frame and the B.F. ones just weld to it. But the B.F. ones are so much cheaper.