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Pretty sure Im gona do a SOA SFA (CANCELED)
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Author:  CRDphenox [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Pretty sure Im gona do a SOA SFA (CANCELED)
Well differential decided to go bang up front and I really dont want to deal with this crap constantly so I have the axles off an 04 ram 3500 fleet side sittin around so.screw it leafed full width it is :twisted:
Author:  CRDphenox [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:45 pm ]
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Maby ill even throw my.dually conversion on for :-)r poops and giggles
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:29 pm ]
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Yeah and some of the most non-desirable axles,good luck.
Author:  CRDphenox [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:28 am ]
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tjkj2002 wrote:
Yeah and some of the most non-desirable axles,good luck.

Why would you say that? I guess i really havnt looked into it cuz I had em so I didnt really worry bout wich ones but Im interested. I like the ones on my Ram, little excessive for a 10000# gvwr for the Libby vs the 33k they were built for but Iv hit anything from steel posts to deer and rocks with mine and no problems, running 35s with 4:10 no prob, pushing 1200#-ft no prob. Good size breaks, strong internals, easy to modify..... but thats all my opinion without research though..
Author:  arengant [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:59 am ]
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CRDphenox wrote:
so.screw it leafed full width it is :twisted:


I will be following this
Author:  RED_KJ_666 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:27 pm ]
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Sweet, Break out the torches.
Author:  ramlebliberty [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:13 pm ]
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Don't be discouraged, there's always going to be some nay sayers here, those that wont accept an idea because its not there's. Or its not whats commonly accepted as correct. :goink: Do what you want to do, take the advice here and form your own Idea on how you want your build to go.

Do it! build it, break it, build it stronger, then break it again!
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:25 pm ]
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CRDphenox wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
Yeah and some of the most non-desirable axles,good luck.

Why would you say that? I guess i really havnt looked into it cuz I had em so I didnt really worry bout wich ones but Im interested. I like the ones on my Ram, little excessive for a 10000# gvwr for the Libby vs the 33k they were built for but Iv hit anything from steel posts to deer and rocks with mine and no problems, running 35s with 4:10 no prob, pushing 1200#-ft no prob. Good size breaks, strong internals, easy to modify..... but thats all my opinion without research though..

Little to no aftermarket support is the big reason,and also very bulky/heavy for there strength.There are much better full width "ton" axles out there that are better suited.
Author:  CRDphenox [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:59 am ]
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Ok, valid points. But my counter point is, well, there free :mrgreen:
Author:  CRDphenox [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:01 am ]
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And with leafs if I dont like em its not rocket science to change em later.
Author:  ramlebliberty [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:18 am ]
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CRDphenox wrote:
Ok, valid points. But my counter point is, well, there free :mrgreen:


work with what you have, or sell them for a 44/60 combo! Craigslist can be your friend.

One recommendation im going to make, look into unibody braces for underneath. Check out what the XJ guys do, especially if your going leafs. The unibody on a KJ is strong but some 1/8 - 3/16" supports will make it a hell of a lot stronger. Overkill never hurt anyone! Other than that go at it with fury, take lots of pics and lots of notes, and share!
Author:  RED_KJ_666 [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:29 pm ]
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My Frame Is Plated with welded on 1/4" Stiffeners from the Firewall to the rear bumper. Here's a picture of the main frame piece complete with Ballistic Fab. Skulls.
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If you don't plate it you'd be sorry you didn't really fast.
Author:  ramlebliberty [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:03 pm ]
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talk about beef 1/4"! how much did those things weight?
Author:  RED_KJ_666 [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:04 pm ]
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I honestly never weighed them, The simple answer is a lot. Also keep in mind that's only the main chassis section, It goes right to the rear bumper The Liberty's frame is an odd size as well so buying C channel isn't really an option buying Angle and cutting it down then adding Plate welded on for the inside is how we did it. The rear is complicated go look at yours if you don't believe me lol
Author:  CRDphenox [ Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:14 pm ]
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I plan on frame reinforcments and cross member reinforcements for torque bars. I'm thinking it'll end up about 6-8" over stock so my garage is out as I only have 2" clearance now :( talked to my bud and he said ~30 hrs @ 100$/hr but that means Iv got experience backing me up and a extra hand (plus im sure there welds are prettier :frankie: ). just not excited about the extra 3K :dizzy:
Author:  RED_KJ_666 [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:20 pm ]
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Yeah mine is being built by a Shop, I don't have the time,tools,patietance,or expertice to do something that takes this much custom work. It's worth it to have a reputable shop involved in your build even if just to keep you going down the right path.
Author:  CRDphenox [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:16 am ]
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I was wondering if anyone knows if I can adapt the tone wheel and abs sensors to work with the modern axles? Im thinking they might be cross compatible at some level as there all Crysler axles. Im gonna check with Dakota Digital when im ready.
Author:  tjkj2002 [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pretty sure Im gona do a SOA SFA
CRDphenox wrote:
I was wondering if anyone knows if I can adapt the tone wheel and abs sensors to work with the modern axles? Im thinking they might be cross compatible at some level as there all Crysler axles. Im gonna check with Dakota Digital when im ready.

Your going to loose ABS unless you keep the rear 8.25 and use a JK front axle(or TJ/XJ front D30 with ABS).If you had a '06 you could have kept it using JK axles(or JK replacement axles).
Author:  USAFCOP [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:52 am ]
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tjkj2002 wrote:
CRDphenox wrote:
I was wondering if anyone knows if I can adapt the tone wheel and abs sensors to work with the modern axles? Im thinking they might be cross compatible at some level as there all Crysler axles. Im gonna check with Dakota Digital when im ready.

Your going to loose ABS unless you keep the rear 8.25 and use a JK front axle(or TJ/XJ front D30 with ABS).If you had a '06 you could have kept it using JK axles(or JK replacement axles).


Yep, Dakota Digital will not sell you any of their speedo modules if you have ABS... First question I was asked when I called to trouble shoot my POS... and the Instruction sheet says specifically in bold "Not for use with any ABS system"
Author:  CRDphenox [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:55 pm ]
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Well the AAMs are out, buddy needs parts after offroad "incident" :roll: . But in return he hooked me up with a guy who has a 77 K3500 rolling chassis complete with Muncie 265, NP205, and DANA 60/70 combo! All for 600$ that ill prob. make up with selling the trans and TC combo :shock:
The shops gonna tear into the axles next week and the build starts the 6th! Ill start another topic with pics :mrgreen:
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