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Author:  OhioStateKJ [ Fri May 18, 2007 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Dueler A/T REVOs?
Hey all, I'm new here . . . I have a stock '04 Renegade (although I'm getting a brush guard soon), and the stock tires (cursed things) are finally ready to be replaced at almost 50,000 miles . . . I think they could actually go a few more; the tread isn't worn too terribly, but I can't stand the things - they were hydroplaning from the get-go.

At any rate, I looked up the cost of the stock tires, and it seems to be within about $50 of the price of the Dueler A/T REVOs - which from what I've heard is a vast improvement in quality. I don't know if it's too much tire, though, for my purposes.

I live in Ohio, bouncing back between NE and Columbus often, so I do a lot of highway driving. I drive in the snow and ice quite a bit during the winter - including during 3-hour back-and-forth highway trips - and Columbus is prone to heavy rain/mild flooding at times. I off-road maybe 5% of the time, mostly when there's skiing involved, or to campground-fairground areas that often involve mud - not a whole lot.

My big issue with getting A/T tires is that I'm worried about an increase in road noise and a decrease in gas mileage over what I have with the stock tires. Can anyone comment on this?

If there's another tire you all would recommend, please let me know. I've spent time reading through these forums and trying to gather information, but it's so subjective! :? Thanks in advance - seems like a great community, I can't wait to talk to you all...
Author:  trailpixie [ Fri May 18, 2007 2:21 pm ]
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Most any AT tire will decrease fuel economy for a few reasons:

1) they are heavier
2) they typically have more grip, so they have more rolling resistence

Interestingly, one reason manufacturers put non-grip tires on a vehicle like a jeep is that in a sideways skid it makes the vehicle more likely to slide than to roll. Put another way, more grip on the road makes it easier to roll the vehicle. Since these non-grip tires have lower rolling resistence, they get better fuel economy which becomes an easy excuse.

Get the AT tires. The noise is not particulary noticable. The safety improvement in rain and snow is significant, especially if you are driving across the ice belt. You will lose 1 or 2 mpg of fuel economy.

Bridgestone Revos are good, so are Goodyear Ailent Armors and Firestone Destination ATs. As far as weight is concerned, the silent armors are heaviest, with the Revos next and the destination ATs are some of the lightest.

Otherwise, get some decent highway tires like micheline LTX/MS or Cross Terrains tires. They will be okay in snow and ice.
Author:  spoonplugger1 [ Fri May 18, 2007 9:40 pm ]
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We have 7 Libertys in the parking lot at work so we have a good test bed.
The BFG ATs lose a mpg, the Nokian Vatiivas, Silent Armors and Revos don't seem to, or at least not as much. All have done well in light off road, snow, rain, etc. All are worlds better than the stock tires. The Revos and the Vatiivas seem to be the quietest and very similar. The Silent Armors just slightly more so on the cobbier surfaces, no difference on the freeway.
Author:  OhioStateKJ [ Fri May 18, 2007 11:08 pm ]
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Thanks for the replies. Everything seems to be pointing towards the REVOs, which I really should take as a sign.

--Alexis :)
Author:  LiLredLibby [ Sat May 19, 2007 12:37 am ]
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OhioStateKJ wrote:
Thanks for the replies. Everything seems to be pointing towards the REVOs, which I really should take as a sign and shell out for them.

--Alexis :)


Hi Alexis......First off...Welcome,and glad you could get L.O.S.T. with us.All of the above mentioned tires are a good choice,but judging by your screen name I'm thinking you might be in school and need to also watch the cost on these new tires.I'm not a poor person,but I do have to kinda budget from time to time.I run a Cooper Discover ATR on my libby,and I'm really impressed with them.They are an agressive AT tire but ride really smooth without alot of road noise.They are made here in Dayton Ohio,and are priced very reasonable.I work at an independent shop,and our mainline tire brand is Cooper.As others have already said,you will probably lose a little bit in fuel mileage,but will gain alot of traction compared to your stock tires.Hope this helps...and I know you'll enjoy this forum as everyone on here are very knowelegable and friendly. :wink:

Ron
Author:  OhioStateKJ [ Sat May 19, 2007 9:21 pm ]
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LiLredLibby wrote:

Hi Alexis......First off...Welcome,and glad you could get L.O.S.T. with us.All of the above mentioned tires are a good choice,but judging by your screen name I'm thinking you might be in school and need to also watch the cost on these new tires.I'm not a poor person,but I do have to kinda budget from time to time.I run a Cooper Discover ATR on my libby,and I'm really impressed with them.They are an agressive AT tire but ride really smooth without alot of road noise.They are made here in Dayton Ohio,and are priced very reasonable.I work at an independent shop,and our mainline tire brand is Cooper.As others have already said,you will probably lose a little bit in fuel mileage,but will gain alot of traction compared to your stock tires.Hope this helps...and I know you'll enjoy this forum as everyone on here are very knowelegable and friendly. :wink:

Ron


Thanks for the suggestion. I've never heard of Cooper before, so I'll have to check them out. That they're made in Dayton is nice . . . always good to support Ohio business. Thanks again! :)
Author:  D.M.B.K.J.52 [ Sun May 20, 2007 5:02 pm ]
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Welcome to L.O.S.T. OhioStateKJ. Saw your post and thought I would throw in my 2 cents as I picked up a set of the Revo's before I deployed to Afghanistan for the past year. Obviously I didn't get to ride them much before I left but my wife rode on them for the past year and she says that they were a vast improvement over the stock Goodyear's that were on it. She said it handled much better in snow and rain. Coming from my non-mechanically inclined wife, that says enough for me. Now that I'm back from Afghanistan I have rode on them for the past week or so and I would definately agree that it is a huge improvement. Good luck with your purchase.
Author:  jason thompson [ Sun May 20, 2007 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dueler A/T REVOs?
OhioStateKJ wrote:
Hey all, I'm new here . . . I have a stock '04 Renegade (although I'm getting a brush guard soon), and the stock tires (cursed things) are finally ready to be replaced at almost 50,000 miles . . . I think they could actually go a few more; the tread isn't worn too terribly, but I can't stand the things - my father didn't believe me when I said I was hydroplaning from the get-go, but oh well.

At any rate, I looked up the cost of the stock tires, and it seems to be within about $50 of the price of the Dueler A/T REVOs - which from what I've heard is a vast improvement in quality. I don't know if it's too much tire, though, for my purposes.

I live in Ohio, bouncing back between NE and Columbus often, so I do a lot of highway driving. I drive in the snow and ice quite a bit during the winter - including during 3-hour back-and-forth highway trips - and Columbus is prone to heavy rain/mild flooding at times. I off-road maybe 5% of the time, mostly when I go skiing, hunting, or to campground-fairground areas that often involve mud - not a whole lot.

My big issue with getting A/T tires is that I'm worried about an increase in road noise and a decrease in gas mileage over what I have with the stock tires. Can anyone comment on this?

If there's another tire you all would recommend, please let me know. I've spent time reading through these forums and trying to gather information, but it's so subjective! :? Thanks in advance - seems like a great community, I can't wait to talk to you all...



I will tell you what I know
If you are stock go for a 225/75 16 it will fit and is a taller narrow tire wich if kept at the proper PSI will get the same or better mpg
they go right at 29.5" tall but only like 6" wide we had the Goodyear AT/S's on for the past 38K+ and they were great up until 2 weeks ago when they started sliping again just like the stockers did when we changed them
I have the revos on the work truck and they seem fine I also would recomend BFG AT's I know guys getting 50K+ out of them under 2500 suburbans

I am not one to ask about road noise however as I dont find the MT/R's to be all that bad
now the down side that I know will happen is a loss in MPG but oh well we dont drive that much any way only 46k in 4+ some years
Author:  jedi4x4 [ Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:25 pm ]
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My last set of meats was 245 / 75 dueler revos....

absolutey fan-damn-tastic tread... I never got stuck.

Problem is,
tread only lasted about 16,000 miles. And is literally almost bald.. there might be 2/27" left if that. (getting dayton timberline MT's tomorrow)


They were fantastic, but don't last long enough imo.
Author:  OhioStateKJ [ Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:19 pm ]
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jedi4x4 wrote:
My last set of meats was 245 / 75 dueler revos....

absolutey fan-darn-tastic tread... I never got stuck.

Problem is,
tread only lasted about 16,000 miles. And is literally almost bald.. there might be 2/27" left if that. (getting dayton timberline MT's tomorrow)


They were fantastic, but don't last long enough imo.


Has anyone else experienced that issue? I hope it's not common . . .
Author:  Gramps [ Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:51 pm ]
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I ran the (245/75-16) AT Revos on my Libby for 40K, took 'em off when I got the Rubi. When the stock tires wear out on the Rubi, The Revos will go on. When they wear out, I'll get the same, just a bit bigger....
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