I know the question has been asked buy need oppinions

Mike08Liberty · **Posted:** Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:52 pm

tommudd wrote:

I have yet to see why a RK lift is good? I can see using a Daystar on a new KK, or even one maybe a year old and 10-12,000 miles. For short term that would work, although I'd still replace all 4 shocks. But RK sends the wrong rated bolts for example and yet people say Oh thats OK. Only takes one time for a bolt to fail.
RKs never were the lift to have in the KJ world, but KKs they are OK?
Puzzling to me when some spend so much on other items like wheels, tires, sound systems and other doodads and cheap out on one of the most important items,..a lift that will provide a good ride / handling KK!

Why is RK bad? There have been no reports of broken bolts so that can't be the reason. They give a good amount of lift for a good price so that can't be the reason. No one has reported any suspension issues, sagging or failing components so that can't be the reason. So why is RK a bad choice ... Because you say it is ...

Kennedy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:23 am **Posts:** 75

gman1322 wrote:

Kennedy wrote:

teckman02 wrote:

sweet 04 WJ Columbia Edition what kind of lift setup are you running on it i am looking at getting the iron rock 4 inch setup

Zone lift don't waste your money on the IRO lift I had a 3" from them and hated it zone so much better its BDS's sister company and the technical support amazing.

I've had the IRO 3" for over two years now on my WJ. Nothing but good all around. Plus I have all 6 of their adjustable control arms on also. I am running the 265 70-16 Treadwright MTR's currently on Cragar steelies. There is nothing wrong with IRO and they answer all emails which is important when you are shopping around or have questions after the sale.

I hear good things about the Zone 4" but nothing overall better than the IRO 3" or 4".

I also have the Rock Krawler 3.5" sitting in the living-room for my KK. Waiting for some warmer weather to get it on.

I had the IRO 3" lift originally, when I asked their technical support guy questions I had the worst experience ever, now the second time I spoke to another representative for IRO and it was much better but just was not a fan of their product.... Zone has been nothing but a great help and great product. My IRO kit was complete garbage I hear they have done some improvements to their lifts whether this is true or not I am not sure....

03CDKJ wrote:

Because you are talking about stupid WJ's in a KK forum... :roll:

To the op... do not get the RK or the daystar... save your money and go with a suspension lift... its only a few hundred dollars more...

Or go with a spacer lift and do it again in a yr or two when your stock springs are sagged from over compressing them with spacers and forks.

Up to you

I posted pictures of my WJ up so people knew the type of off-roading and obstacles I take on in my jeeps. This was never a conversation about WJ's someone chimed in to ask and comment on my previous rig, I am sure you have never hi-jacked or asked a question out of context of the thead. As for the JBA lift it is definitely more then a few hundred bucks RK lift and Daystar lift range from 2xx-3xx. JPA is almost 1700 before shipping..... The 4" is over 3 grand. I am not one to skimp on buying the best by any means but being a broke full time college student that is not what I am looking to spend. A 4" for a WJ is just shy of 600 for a zone kit if you know the right people.

I bought my 08 KK with 45,xxx miles on the previous owner was a female and did not take care of it original tires on it never rotated and the brakes will most likely be needing replaced. I believe there might be a bad wheel bearing which I think I can get the dealer to warranty out for me.... I talked to my buddy again at BDS and they said they weren't interested because their wasn't enough demand for it..... I think they could of made us a lift that would of been very great quality for a great price....

Now back on track for the owner that have daystar or rk I would like to know any issues you may have run into.... JPA is not an option at this time. I have heard stories about the RK for other applications but for the KK nothing but decent and it seems alot of people run the Daystar lift.... I will be upgrading the shocks as well so any insight would be nice I appreciate the responses so far I hope I didn't offend anyone either we are all just here to have fun guys.

At The Helm · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:30 am

I have had the daystar on for about 6000 miles now. So far so good. Like i said earlier it does it's job but its a little rougher ride than stock ( i'm using stock front shocks and skyjacker hydro rears). I'm happy with it but keep in mind i only had 2000 miles on the Jeep when i installed it. Another plus with it is that i dont get any spring/uca contact, but i have heard of others with the same lift having that issue.
An idea you may want to consider is making your own lift with front kj lift springs and longer shocks. Someone on this forum did it and it looked good. I think he saved some money doing this.

Kennedy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:23 am **Posts:** 75

Atthehelm wrote:

I have had the daystar on for about 6000 miles now. So far so good. Like i said earlier it does it's job but its a little rougher ride than stock ( i'm using stock front shocks and skyjacker hydro rears). I'm happy with it but keep in mind i only had 2000 miles on the Jeep when i installed it. Another plus with it is that i dont get any spring/uca contact, but i have heard of others with the same lift having that issue.
An idea you may want to consider is making your own lift with front kj lift springs and longer shocks. Someone on this forum did it and it looked good. I think he saved some money doing this.

So the front coil springs will work from a kj I just need to order rear springs from JPA?

Marlon_JBT · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:32 am

Kennedy wrote:

Atthehelm wrote:

I have had the daystar on for about 6000 miles now. So far so good. Like i said earlier it does it's job but its a little rougher ride than stock ( i'm using stock front shocks and skyjacker hydro rears). I'm happy with it but keep in mind i only had 2000 miles on the Jeep when i installed it. Another plus with it is that i dont get any spring/uca contact, but i have heard of others with the same lift having that issue.
An idea you may want to consider is making your own lift with front kj lift springs and longer shocks. Someone on this forum did it and it looked good. I think he saved some money doing this.

So the front coil springs will work from a kj I just need to order rear springs from JPA?

This is true. JBA BTW.

Also, Skyjacker shocks don't have the best "ride" reputation.

gman1322 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:54 am

Marlon_JBT wrote:

Kennedy wrote:

Atthehelm wrote:

I have had the daystar on for about 6000 miles now. So far so good. Like i said earlier it does it's job but its a little rougher ride than stock ( i'm using stock front shocks and skyjacker hydro rears). I'm happy with it but keep in mind i only had 2000 miles on the Jeep when i installed it. Another plus with it is that i dont get any spring/uca contact, but i have heard of others with the same lift having that issue.
An idea you may want to consider is making your own lift with front kj lift springs and longer shocks. Someone on this forum did it and it looked good. I think he saved some money doing this.

So the front coil springs will work from a kj I just need to order rear springs from JPA?

This is true. JBA BTW.

Also, Skyjacker shocks don't have the best "ride" reputation.

What shocks would you(or anyone) recommend if they are going with the RK lift? I have the lift but have not purchased any shocks yet.

Thanks.

At The Helm · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:21 am

Here is luigi's :frankie:

lift. He used rusty's 2.5 kj coils and jba rears w bilsteins.
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=55463&p=619398&hilit=Made+frankenstein+lift#p619398
If you use coils for a kj they will yield like a 1/2" shorter lift, so to compensate you could use boiler's strut shims and put a gap in the clevis.

Kennedy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:23 am **Posts:** 75

Atthehelm wrote:

Here is luigi's :frankie:

lift. He used rusty's 2.5 kj coils and jba rears w bilsteins.
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=55463&p=619398&hilit=Made+frankenstein+lift#p619398
If you use coils for a kj they will yield like a 1/2" shorter lift, so to compensate you could use boiler's strut shims and put a gap in the clevis.

Thanks I am going to hopefully be on my way to doing just that I was thinking it through last night before you posted the link! Hopefully I can do something like this relatively soon.

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:11 pm

Atthehelm wrote:

Here is luigi's :frankie:

lift. He used rusty's 2.5 kj coils and jba rears w bilsteins.
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=55463&p=619398&hilit=Made+frankenstein+lift#p619398
If you use coils for a kj they will yield like a 1/2" shorter lift, so to compensate you could use boiler's strut shims and put a gap in the clevis.

Just don't use Rustys springs, they are rated at 310 lb and will sag quickly
and thats not because I say so it's because I have seen them in person and how much they sag over a short period of time. Unlike some who have only used one type of lift and think its the best I have seen, installed, and used various ones

At The Helm · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:07 pm

Maybe ome coils would work better for him?

Kennedy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:23 am **Posts:** 75

tommudd wrote:

Atthehelm wrote:

Here is luigi's :frankie:

lift. He used rusty's 2.5 kj coils and jba rears w bilsteins.
viewtopic.php?f=88&t=55463&p=619398&hilit=Made+frankenstein+lift#p619398
If you use coils for a kj they will yield like a 1/2" shorter lift, so to compensate you could use boiler's strut shims and put a gap in the clevis.

Just don't use Rustys springs, they are rated at 310 lb and will sag quickly
and thats not because I say so it's because I have seen them in person and how much they sag over a short period of time. Unlike some who have only used one type of lift and think its the best I have seen, installed, and used various ones

I had heard that too!

Atthehelm wrote:

Maybe ome coils would work better for him?

I was looking at the OME heavy duty coils for the front as well. With some blisten shocks maybe and the JBA 2.5" kit.

And if I am using the KJ lift springs who do you think will have the best front spring to make up for the extra weight again I will have to call BDS for a spring rate they say they are only 2" lift springs so..... If the OME springs are actually getting 2.5" then I am at 2" of lift...

At The Helm · **Posted:** Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:16 pm

Ome advertises their springs at 1.5 but I think you get more than that. One big factor is much your original springs have sagged.

Kennedy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:23 am **Posts:** 75

Atthehelm wrote:

Ome advertises their springs at 1.5 but I think you get more than that. One big factor is much your original springs have sagged.

I am sure they are sagged quite a good sign would be the fact the chick who was the previous owner had the factory tires on it 45,xxx miles later and probably never had been rotated, spark plugs never changed, and lived on a dirt road.

At The Helm · **Posted:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:43 am

Yikes. Did you change the engine, t case, and differential oils when you got it just for a little peace of mind?

Kennedy · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:23 am **Posts:** 75

Atthehelm wrote:

Yikes. Did you change the engine, t case, and differential oils when you got it just for a little peace of mind?

Changed the sparkplugs, engine oil, and filter haven't been able to change the t-case and diffs.

Waiting to do the diffs when I buy aftermarket diff covers.

DirtyKK · **Posted:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:58 am

nothing wrong with the RK if you replace the hardware. dunno why everybody makes such a big deal about them. i would buy the RK lift again in a heartbeat over any other budget lift just because they are all about the same price and the RK is way easier to install.

Mike08Liberty · **Posted:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:40 am

gman1322 wrote:

What shocks would you(or anyone) recommend if they are going with the RK lift? I have the lift but have not purchased any shocks yet.

Thanks.

I ran BDS rear shocks with my RK kit and it gave me a great ride.

gman1322 · **Posted:** Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:55 am

Mike08Liberty wrote:

I ran BDS rear shocks with my RK kit and it gave me a great ride.

Thanks, I'll look into them.

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