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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:45 am 
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I'm pretty sure it's about the "Cherokee". The thread is pretty on topic and not offending....well aside from that so called "Jeep". I think he would have deleted the topic by now if that was the case lol



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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:53 am 
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It is a product of the new CAFE standards maybe?

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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:43 am 
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My post reflected my personal feelings to the new KL as of right now. From what I have seen, it is just a larger Compass/Patriot that will most likely use the same front wheel drive set up to achieve the 45% better gas mileage rating over the current KK.

But I love my gas guzzling KK :JEEPIN:.
I do remember looking back to when the KK came out. Alot of the KJ guys gave us alot of flak saying the KK was ugly (really jealous because ours does actually look better :ROTFL: ) and wouldn't be as good offroad etc. And they got flack for the XJ/TJ guys as for not having a SFA. Both have proved to be very capable off roaders. So I really don't want to make any bold statements as of yet (though its hard not too), but I really hope that this thing will get wheeled more than the current Compass and Patriot do. I hope it lives up to the Jeep name and doesn't just become a soft roader.
I can't wait to see one on a (non-gravel) trail.

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 Post subject: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:25 pm 
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S not a cherokee it's in-American !

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 Post subject: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:07 pm 
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What is that no way that can be a jeep!!


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 Post subject: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:49 pm 
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Um yea way.


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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
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Theoretically, it is NOT a softroader.

Well not to me. Anything with low range, regardless of suspension, isn't a softroader.

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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
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It's funny reading all of this since I'm old enough to remember what the old timers said about
the YJ, it wasn't a real Jeep
the XJ, it wasn't a real Jeep
the KJ, the KK and on and on
I'm with Marlon, its got low range, and I'm sure it'll surprise the crap out of a lot of folks when they actually give it a chance
Besides looks , it'll do pretty well I think

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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
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Like any new jeep that's significantly different than previous generations, it's polarizing. Lots of people hated the XJ saying uniframe would kill jeep...and they were really wrong. The XJ/MJ was a solid moneymaker for 14 years. The KJ was reviled for its IFS by many, but it's really quite capable with a few mods and was quite a strong seller until everyone jumped on the bandwagon and made the current generation of mall-crawling crossovers. Ultimately, Fiat/Chrysler/Jeep is doing what it needs to do to keep market share and the vast majority of its buyers happy. I can't slight them for that. Profits on mall-crawlers and urban assault vehicles pay for R&D in Moab, so I'm not complaining too much.

I will say that the fact that this new gen is now car-based is very disappointing to me personally. I thought the KJ/KK series was going in the right direction and just needed some refinement. I care more around what I can make a vehicle do than what it looks like necessarily. The looks are something that I'm sure people will get used to just like they get used to everything else. The capabilities and underpinnings of this new jeep will ultimately tell whether it's an evolutionary step for the XJ-KJ-KK line or just posing with the nameplate. not being able to make the suspension better. Not being able to make armor, not being able to easily add actual utility is what will affect its customer base, not squinty headlights :wink: Like any other new model, we can only predict based on past experience...and we won't really know until we drive the new one.

Regardless, once jeep offers the 3.0 VM diesel in a JK, that's where my sights are set.

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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
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Regardless, once jeep offers the 3.0 VM diesel in a JK, that's where my sights are set.

Dan

And then it will not be available for US market like the JK 2.8CRD? :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
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The front end design does not seem to not take any sort of off-roading into consideration. The approach angle looks horrible, and it doesn't look like you can easily remove the bumper to add a new one, with out having to do some major cutting. I can't say I like the squinty headlights either. Even if it turns out to be a decent off roader, I'm still glad that this didn't take the Liberty name. However, I think this does great injustice to the XJ Cherokee name. I bet the XJ owners are ticked off :evil: .

I wonder if they're going to get rid of either or both of the MK platforms (Patriot/Compass). They don't need 3 small crossovers. and no mid size SUV.


So I JUST realized this about the headlights, they aren't traditionally round, but they aren't what I thought they were!

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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
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Looked kind of lame at first and the Kia resemblance is strong.

I just watched a video if this thing off road and I'll have to test drive one before I can pass judgment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLQbvb-AcdM

The jeep website has the KL available for "build and price" so I did.... My Trailhawk V6 with all the goodness was $39,900 :shock:
I passed on JKs cause they were $35K

http://www.jeep.com/hostc/bmo/CUJ201408/models.do

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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
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It was designed as a front wheel drive platform, all wheel drive is achieved via a power take off to drive the rear wheels. No transfer case. No where near as capable as a KJ but that's where the market is going thesedays - just capitalise on the brand and give them soft-roaders. They will sell well.


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 Post subject: Re: I don't like how I feel about this '14 "Cherokee"
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:14 am 
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Did anyone see the Trailhawk version? They give it a one inch lift over the other models and add skid plates and tow hooks. I suppose it's the "Renegade" version of the new Cherokee, but at least they're trying. Given the resourcefulness of many of the folks here, I have no doubts that some of you guys will be able to turn this thing into a capable off-roader. As for it's styling, it's not THAT bad. They just could have come up with something better for the headlights.

http://www.jeep.com/en/2014/cherokee/#m ... let_silver

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