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Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****
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Author:  DirtyKK [ Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

Just got the KK back from the body shop lookin all fresh and junk. They told me I have some sort of glitch going on with my headlight and wipers and they think it is a recall. My wiper switch will not move the wipers at all. The only thing it does is spray the fluid. When I turn my headlights on my wipers start going off. Does any of this sound familiar? Or does anybody have a place to look up the recalls cause a quick Google search yielded no results for this malfunction.

Author:  Marlon_JBT [ Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with an issue. Possible recall.

There is a recall for the wiper motor, but this doesn't sound like it.

Make: JEEP Model: LIBERTY
Model Year: 2008
Manufacturer: CHRYSLER GROUP LLC Mfr's Report Date: NOV 03, 2010
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V550000 NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: VISIBILITY:WINDSHIELD WIPER/WASHER:MOTOR
Potential Number of Units Affected: 12,027
Summary:
CHRYSLER IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2008 JEEP LIBERTY VEHICLES. THE VEHICLES ARE EQUIPPED WITH WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTORS THAT CONTAIN EXCESS ADHESIVE THAT MAY ALLOW FOR WATER INTRUSION, WHICH COULD RESULT IN INTERMITTENT AND EVENTUALLY INOPERATIVE WINDSHIELD WIPER OPERATION.
Consequence:
A FAILING OR INOPERATIVE WINDSHIELD WIPER SYSTEM WILL REDUCE A DRIVER'S VISIBILITY WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON DECEMBER 1, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHRYSLER AT 1-800-853-1403.
Notes:
CHRYSLER SAFETY RECALL NO. K24. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .

If any recalls apply to your specific vehicle, that's what Jeep.com is for

https://owners.jeep.com/sub/Pages/Owner ... Source=%2F

Insert your VIN in the Search For Recalls section below.

Author:  DirtyKK [ Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with an issue. Possible recall.

thanks marlon

Author:  DirtyKK [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help. Possible recall. TIPM maybe? who knows...

Could this be a TIPM issue? Maybe? Any ideas guys?

Im also assuming the TIPM is the electrical box behind the battery?

Author:  Diggerfreek [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help. Possible recall. TIPM maybe? who knows...

DirtyKK wrote:
Could this be a TIPM issue? Maybe? Any ideas guys?

Im also assuming the TIPM is the electrical box behind the battery?


Thats where the TIPM is ....

I hate to shoot in the dark, but I don't think it's the tipm.

You got me on this one buddy.

Author:  DirtyKK [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

Nothing drives me more bananas then when somebody once had a similar issue but didnt come back to the thread with the fix. I started troubleshooting a little further and found that the horn and fog lights were specifically what set off the wipers. Since the KK obviously didnt do this before the accident I figured I would start with the most likely problem area. I proceeded reaching my arm down and disconnecting one of the wires to the horn and when I pressed the horn button the wipers didnt move, I knew I was on the right track. I went ahead and removed the grill and driver side headlight. Started following the wire bundles from the horns and fog light socket, low and behold I found a ground cable that was disconnected. Hooked it up to the nearest grounding spot. Boom. Fixed. Stupid body shop. :banghead:

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Author:  Diggerfreek [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

All I can say is wow :shock:

One disconnected ground caused all of that :shock: :shock:

Author:  DirtyKK [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

Diggerfreek wrote:
All I can say is wow :shock:

One disconnected ground caused all of that :shock: :shock:


I work on aircraft avionics. Ive seen bad grounds and floating grounds cause some of the craziest write ups ever. Theyre usually also the hardest to troubleshoot. This was pretty ridiculous though.

Author:  TAHOE [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

Good thing you figured it out. I've had all kinds of things happen on trailer lights cause of bad grounds. I now run a seaprate wire from hook up back to both lights for insurance.

Author:  Marlon_JBT [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

I hope you called the body shop back. Personally, I wouldn't have even accepted the vehicle unless it was working perfectly. No way would I have accepted responsibility if I brought the vehicle in there without issues to be returned WITH issues.

I'd certainly want reimbursement for my time!

Author:  hrogi [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

I hope you cealned the grounds ups before attaching it again.

It looks rusty...

Author:  DirtyKK [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help! fogs and horn set off wipers. ****SOLVED****

Marlon_JBT wrote:
I hope you called the body shop back. Personally, I wouldn't have even accepted the vehicle unless it was working perfectly. No way would I have accepted responsibility if I brought the vehicle in there without issues to be returned WITH issues.

I'd certainly want reimbursement for my time!


oh i called, they apologized. only reason why i had accepted it was because they had it for entirely too long to begin with. i was gonn end up getting into it with State Farm because the shop is one of their "preferred shops." quite frankly if it was going to come down to a wiring issue, i dont want a body shop to try and figure the crap out. they probably would have called in some random "mechanic to figure it out. lets face it these new vehicles are too hard to troubleshoot without the proper equipment. i would have rather had it sitting at the dealership instead, as much as i also despise them.

hrogi wrote:
I hope you cealned the grounds ups before attaching it again.

It looks rusty...


i took some sand paper to the contacts as a matter of fact. it was copper though, not really rusty.

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