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| Author: | rangerr47 [ Mon May 06, 2013 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
Hey Guys I just asked for my complete build sheet from Jeep on my 2012 Liberty. I had a question.... Do they make a 4x4 Liberty with command trac and a conventional differential??? Or is that not what it sounds like.. 4-Spd. Automatic VLP 42RLE Trans DHLS Command Trac II - Part Time 4WD DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle DMES 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle DS8S Conventional Differential Rear Axle |
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| Author: | tommudd [ Mon May 06, 2013 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
Conventional differential ?? where did you come up with that ? |
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| Author: | DREDnot [ Tue May 07, 2013 3:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
That makes sense. You should have an open diff and the traction control system uses the ABS system to brake the spinning wheel to force the conventional differential to drive you like a locker would. |
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| Author: | rangerr47 [ Tue May 07, 2013 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
4-Spd. Automatic VLP 42RLE Trans DHLS Command Trac II - Part Time 4WD DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle DMES 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle DS8S Conventional Differential Rear Axle I put the exact line in the original post...I figured it was just weird descriptions as some are nerded up pretty good. I just had to ask, I didnt think it was not LSD Track loc , but it just doesnt say it so it threw me off is all |
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| Author: | rangerr47 [ Tue May 07, 2013 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
Figured I would post the entire build sheet, would like to see another sheet of a newer Liberty for comparison. Vehicle Description JEEP LIBERTY SPORT 4X4 SPORT UTILITY 4-DR Model Year 2012 Body Model KK J L 74 Color PDM Mineral Gray Met. Clear Coat Sales Code Description *K7 Premium Cloth Bucket Seats -DV Dark Slate Gray APAS Monotone Paint BAES 140 Amp Alternator BC2S 600 Amp Maintenance Free Battery BGEP Brake Assist BNBS Electronic Stability Control BNGS Hill Start Assist BNHP Hill Descent Control BNPP All Speed Traction Control BNSP Electronic Roll Mitigation BRYS Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes CAKS Rr 60/40 Folding Split Recline Seat CBDS Active Head Restraints CDWS Front Passenger Fold Flat Seat CGDS Front Height Adjust Shoulder Belts CGUS Child Seat Anchor System-LATCH Ready CG3S Advanced Multistage Front Air Bags** CJ2S Supp. Side Curtain Frt/Rr Air Bags CKDS Floor Carpet CLZS Luxury Front & Rear Floor Mats CL5S Reversible/Waterproof Cargo Storage CTLS Base Door Trim Panel CUFS Full Length Floor Console CV1S Vinyl Shift Knob DBAC All Automatic Transmissions DGV 4-Spd. Automatic VLP 42RLE Trans DHLS Command Trac II - Part Time 4WD DJJS Dana 30/186MM Front Axle DMES 3.73 Rear Axle Ratio DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle DS8S Conventional Differential Rear Axle EKG 3.7L V6 Engine GAMS Solar Control Glass GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass GEPS Flipper Liftgate Glass GFAS Rear Window Defroster NAS Rear View Day/Night Mirror GNCS Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors G TSS Power Heated Mirrors, Fold-Away GVBC All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors GXMS Remote Keyless Entry GXTS Rear Door Child Protection Locks GXXS Sentry Key Theft Deterrent System HAAS Air Conditioning JAAS Instrument Panel JAYS Instrument Cluster w/Tach JCBS 120 MPH Primary Speedometer JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers JHBS Rear Window Wiper/Washer JJBS Dual Note Electric Horns JJJS 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet JKYS Power Accessory Delay JMAS Air Filtering JPDS Power Windows, Driver One-Touch JPHS Speed Sensitive Power Locks JP8S Manual Adjust Seats LABS Tire Pressure Monitoring Warning LP LACS Illuminated Entry LBBS Courtesy Lamps LCDS Map/Dome Reading Lamps LCHS Rear Dome Lamp LDBS Cargo Compartment Lamp LHDS Headlamp Off Time Delay LMAS Halogen Headlamps LMGS Automatic Headlamps LPSS CHMSL Lamp LSES Enhanced Accident Response System MDAS Front License Plate Bracket MFKS Body Color Grille MJAS Bodyside Molded-In-Color Moldings MLAS Body Color Fascias MMJS Body Color Fender Flares MNAS Black Door Handles MNJS Black License Plate Brow MT2S Trail Rated Badge MVCS Jeep Badge MVDS 4X4 Badge MW8S Black Roof Molding MZLP 3.7L Badge NAS 50 State Emissions NGAS 19.5 Gallon Fuel Tank NHBS Auxiliary Transmission Oil Cooler NHMS Speed Control PDM Mineral Gray Met. Clear Coat QDMS Mineral Gray Met. Clear Coat RCGS 6 Speakers R DBS Removable Short Mast Antenna RDZS Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Ctrls RESS Uconnect 130 AM/FM/CD/MP3 RSCS SIRIUS Satellite Radio RSUP Audio Jack Input for Mobile Devices SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering SCDS Luxury Steering Wheel SDAS Normal Duty Suspension SUAS Tilt Steering Column TBCS Compact Spare Tire TRYS P225/75R16 BSW All Season Tires TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires WLZC All Aluminum Wheels WNKS 16X7.0 Aluminum Wheels XBNP Tip Start XCAS Occupant Classification System XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap XLNS English/USA Language XPFS Protective Coating and Remover XVNP Basic Owner's Manual X81S Instrument Panel Parts Module X82S Door Parts Module X83S Front End Parts Module X84S Front Suspension Parts Module X85S Rear Suspension Parts Module X89S Front Suspension Damper Parts Module X9BP 1-Year SiriusXM Radio Service YAAS Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications |
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| Author: | rangerr47 [ Tue May 07, 2013 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
Well searching the web I see that lots of folks thought they had LSD and did not, a ton of wranglers I see posting about it once they got their build sheets. So having 4x4 does not mean you have limited slip... Which I suppose makes it easy to pick my next upgrade...so if indeed I do have an open dif and no LSD. What is the easiest/cheapest to put in there? Thinking along the lines of DTT or even Powertrax no slip. Not got the cash for selectable lockers. |
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| Author: | DREDnot [ Tue May 14, 2013 3:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
Have you wheeled it yet? If so have you experienced what the traction control can handle. I have always ordered or insisted on having a traction aid of some sort in most of the 4x4s I've owned and I was a little unhappy that it was not available. I've used the traction control "locker" a couple dozen times so far and it was not much different from my Rubicon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3QsgSRj28g |
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| Author: | Marlon_JBT [ Tue May 14, 2013 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
Command-Trac II is the name of the 4WD system. The old name for the limited slip, which is no longer offered was called Trac-Loc. Brake Lock Differentials take the place of the old Trac-Loc. As mentioned before, it is managed through the Traction Control system and works very well. Several people have asked me if I am locked front and rear. |
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| Author: | rangerr47 [ Tue May 14, 2013 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
So does this system just work without any input from the driver? Can you or do you have to use the brake trick to help out? I have only had mine since the end of last year and only done a couple off road trips, and never got close to getting stuck or anything so I have not pushed it to see how far it can go yet. |
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| Author: | DREDnot [ Tue May 14, 2013 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Just got my build sheet from Jeep |
The only driver input needed is the gas pedal. When one wheel starts to spin more than the others, the ABS sensors see that and activate the brake on that wheel only. That causes the power to go to the wheel with traction. You will hear and feel a "grumbling" noise as the ABS does its thing. Just give it throttle and away you go. |
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