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Author:  Bryfry21 [ Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Hey everyone i'm new to the forum and have been searching endlessly with regards to lifting up my 2008 liberty. I've been stuck on the Tommudd's econo lift (3.5) and i have heard alot of good things about it, seems worth the extra (few hundred) for two inches versus the OME/Blistein lift. Is there anything i should add to the kit? i will be adding bump stops, but is it recommended to upgrade the sway bar links? or is stock fine for this size. If anyone has this lift can you please let me know how it's been for you, and if you have any recommendations. Would love seeing anyones lifted KK's with the kit on!

I am not looking to do any heavy off-roading, just want some extra height with meaner tires.



Thanks
Author:  Bmxer524 [ Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
I went the OME/Bilstein route for the 3.5" lift. Basically the same as Tom's. He uses Ironman front springs and shocks with JBA 4" rear springs and Ironman shocks. On the other hand I use OME springs and Bilstein shocks with the extra rear isolators for the added height in the rear.

With that said, of course bumpstops which you're taking care of. And 4" rear swaybar links. They're optional. I don't have them(thinking about upgrading though). lfhoward has them(4" kit, but same 4" rear springs) and said they changed the ride. Up to you mostly.
Author:  tommudd [ Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Bumpstops is all you need to add,
I would recommend installing the longer rear sway bar links after installing them on lfhowards. I couldn't believe the difference in the way they looked compared to stock and then after he reported back on how much better it rode, I'd say yes include them.
Author:  silverkk [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Seen as this is the topic of discussion what do you need besides lift spring when running a 4 inch lift
Author:  tommudd [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
silverkk wrote:
Seen as this is the topic of discussion what do you need besides lift spring when running a 4 inch lift

If you want a full 4 inches of lift I would highly suggest going with the adjustable coilover kit with the UCAs etc, other wise you will have spring/ UCA contact
Other wise you can get 3.5 inches with springs/ top plate/clevis and UCAs etc
Author:  silverkk [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Whata etc ik ucas springs bump stops but what about track bars in the rear and sway link ends I found sways cheap so what is everything in a list
Author:  Bmxer524 [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
I still get some contact on my driver's side with 3.5". I think I can clock the springs a tad to fix it...but I've been too lazy and just haven't had time.
Author:  tommudd [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
silverkk wrote:
Whata etc ik ucas springs bump stops but what about track bars in the rear and sway link ends I found sways cheap so what is everything in a list


Please translate
Author:  Bmxer524 [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
I think he's asking what's in the kit.

Basically this:
Front:
Adjust a struts, bumpstops and a arms(optional front swaybar disconnects)

Rear:
Springs, shocks, bumpstops, sway bar links, and track bar

Brake lines might also be optional, most likely highly recommended.

The front adjust a struts are the biggest expense. 1500 for the set with a-arms coming up next.
Author:  silverkk [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Ok what I ment was is what parts are needed and what parts are recommended
Author:  tommudd [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
silverkk wrote:
Ok what I ment was is what parts are needed and what parts are recommended

If you take the time to read different parts are listed as to what you need, also if you get on the JBA site for say example the adjustable coilovers its there in a list makes ordering very simple.
If you want to go with OME or Ironman again simple to order what you need depending on what height you want to go to.
First thing(s) to know is what is your budget and what height do you want out of a lift. Suggestions can then be made as to what will work the best.
One reason the TM Econo kit was put together was the fact so many kept asking what all they needed to get a 3.5 inch lift and the most cost effective approach to get there.
Author:  Bryfry21 [ Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Thanks for the info guys! much appreciated.
Author:  Tx_roadie [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Hey Bryfry21, here's a pic of my KK with the TM/Econo lift to give you an idea of how they can end up looking (hopefully this works):

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TM/Econo lift with the recommended f/r bumpstops; BFG AT/KO 245/75/16 on the stock rims; the 3/8 clevis leaves a positive front rake (I'll likely level out the front); standard weight springs. Haven't noticed any significant change in fuel consumption.

As far as issues, I've had this annoying driver's side clicking noise when I lock the steering wheel counterclockwise turning under load (up acute bend inclines). Haven't figured it out yet (there's another thread on this).

I did install the extended sway bar links and rear track bar - I like the handling better. It feels abit more supple and nimble when maneuvering around turns and bends (independent of that clicking noise).

Overall, I'm happy with the kit; for my use (fire trails, city to trailhead, off-highway; no bogging or rock crawling) it's perfect (plus it's a subtle lift that doesn't scream "jacked up"). I like the extra clearance over the standard 2" inch lift, but didn't need the full capacity (or expense) of the 4" coilover.

Happy trails.
Author:  Gageraid [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
^^^ That looks great!
Author:  nFodzy [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
How do you get rid of it leaning forward so much? Also how much extra were the sway bar links?
Author:  hucorey [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
I agree, looks great. Nice kit there Mr. Mudd
Author:  silverkk [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
Small tires lol jk looks great
Author:  Bryfry21 [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tommudd's 3.5'' Econo Lift
looks awesome, thanks for the picture, cant wait to get my kit and tires now! thanks
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