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 Post subject: JK Headlight in KK Housing
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:47 pm 
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JK Lights in KK Housing

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• eBay JK Lights – Any JK lights will do, I went economical for the proof of concept
• 2 JK Bucket replacements
• 2 JK headlight retaining rings
• KK Headlight housings (L and R) – junkyard find. With or without fogs, doesn’t matter
• 12 - 10-24 Screw coupler
• 6 - 10-24 machine screws – Sorry, forgot to record the length
o Allen Head thumb
• 6 - 10-24 machine screw – Sorry, forgot to record the length
o Tapered head
• 6 - 10-24 x 1.5” machine screws
• 6 - 10-24 x 1.25” machine screws
• 2 - 10-24 x 1” machine screw
• 2 - 10-24 nut with nylon insert
• 6 sets of metric machine screw, nut, washer ~1” long.
o Do not remember the size, bring JK bucket to hardware store for proper diameter screw
• 1 - 12”x24” sheet of 18 gauge steel
• 2 - H13 to H11 anti-flicker harness – I used a quadratech
• 2 - H11 Extension harness
• 2 - 9005 Extension harness
• Good crimper and stripper
• Red and Blue butt connectors

01) Start with removing and baking the headlights

DetroitKK's writeup here for Grill Removal and Headlight Baking

viewtopic.php?f=88&t=55424

02) Remove bezels and headlight bowls
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• *No pic* Remove plastic retainers from backside of main light bowl and save
• Can put aside Main Bowl, Fog Bowl (if donor light had one), and bezel.
• Keep the plastic retainers separate

03) Cut out a piece of cardboard to use as a template. Small enough to rest on the posts where the plastic retainers will connect to, but large enough to fit the JK bucket.
• You can see the post referenced in the below pic circled in yellow
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• “Punch” through with a pin or a pen where the center of the headlight bowl posts are.
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• Transfer the marks to a sturdier piece of cardboard
• Square up the marks from the KK housing
• Overlay the JK replacement buckets and square it up with the other and mark
o There are little protrusions on the backside of the JK replacement bucket. These are to help line up the new bucket square to the front to make the headlight level
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04) Cut the 12”x24” sheet of 18 gauge steel in half and affix to a backing to stabilize the cuts. Trace the cardboard template onto the sheet metal and cut
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05) Test fit the bucket
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06) Test fit the light and bucket
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07) The previous cuts were too big. Also, I had to cut off the tooth since it interfered with keeping the headlight in proper orientation.
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08) I forgot to take pictures of the process, but the 6 allen head thumb screws have to have the head ground down. This is so that the screw head does not interfere with the rounded head of the post inside the KK housing. Leave just enough for the allen head to get a grip.
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09) Assemble new bracket, JK bucket, JK light. There will be part of the new bucket that covers screws for the screw coupler. Order being to put together the pieces for the KK plastic retainers, then affixing the JK bucket to the new bezel
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10) Snap bracket into place

11) Insert JK Headlight and screw down the retaining ring to JK bucket
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12) If all fits well, disassemble and paint to color of your choice
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13) For the fog lights, you’ll have to ream out the holes for screws on the fog light housing to accommodate the 10-24 screw. It would be easier to remove the fog light from the housing.

14) Holding the fog housing as square as possible to the KK housing, mark where the screws would penetrate through to the other side.
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• The circled areas are just an estimation
• Shave down any plastic as necessary

15) Drill the holes and assemble
• You can see from the following picture approximately where the holes will come out
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• In the top left of the picture, it is a nut and machine screw due to the indent. See pic 17.1 top right circle

16) Reassemble entire light
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17) Fishing the wires through the main light opening is easy, but fishing the fog lights though the hole requires removing the plug case and reinserting the prongs after passing through the fog light hole
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18) I wired up my own pigtail using an H11extension and a 9005Extension. This is so the H11 plug for the indicator bulb can be used without having to splice into the factory harness. I used an 9005 Plug for the halos so I can remove the headlight entirely without hassle or cutting.
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• White is ground
• Red is running lights (white halo)
• Black is turn signal (Amber Halo)
• Wire Identification for the factory harness and plugs should be as follows. All are taken from the point of view looking INTO the plug (Female end)
o Left Headlight
 Right cavity – White/Dark Blue stripe – Left Low Beam
 Middle Cavity – Black/Light Green stripe – Left High Beam Return signal
 Left Cavity – White/Light Green stripe – Left High Beam
o Right Headlight
 Right cavity – White/Tan stripe – Right Low Beam
 Middle Cavity – Black/Tan Green stripe – Right High Beam Return signal
 Left Cavity – White/Gray stripe – Right High Beam
o Left Indicator
 Right cavity – Black/Dark Green stripe – Ground
 Middle Cavity – White/Light Green stripe – Left Front Park Signal Control
 Left Cavity – White/Light Green stripe – Left Front Turn Signal Control
o Right Indicator
 Right cavity – Black/Red stripe – Ground
 Middle Cavity – White/Tan stripe – Right Front Park Signal Control
 Left Cavity – White/Tan stripe – Right Front Turn Signal Control
o Right Fog
 Left cavity – Black/Dark Brown stripe - Ground
 Right Cavity – White/Orange Stripe – Right Front Fog Lamp Control
o Left Fog
 Left cavity – Black/White Stripe – Ground
 Right Cavity – White/Yellow Stripe – Left Front Fog Lamp Control

19) I used a quadratec Anti-Flicker harness that had an H11 to H13 adapter because I did not like the one that came with the lights. Separate harnesses for anti flicker and H11 to H13 Adapter. Too many wires.
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20) Installing is simple.
• Pull back the wheel liner, if you still have it, to expose the H11 plug for the indicator bulb and unplug
• Plug the new H11 harness into the indicator socket and into the factory harness.
• Push the 9005 plug through to inside the engine bay. It should just reach.
• Connect the 9005 sockets
• Connect the fog light
• Connect the H11 headlight
• Reattach the headlight to the Jeep

21) Test
• Park Lamps
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• Hazards/Turn
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• Fog
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• Low
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• High
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22) Put the grill back in and you’re all set
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Sweet. :twisted: Your Jeep now resembles the Terminator. :grim:

Any issues with headlight aiming after doing this? Is the aiming adjustable?

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I put a link to this cool writeup in the KK How-To’s Index in the Tech Section.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=80240

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lfhoward wrote:
Sweet. :twisted: Your Jeep now resembles the Terminator. :grim:

Any issues with headlight aiming after doing this? Is the aiming adjustable?


No issues with the aiming since I used the same mounting points as the stock headlights. Aside from stripping the star drive on the drivers side. I have to get a metric nut drive set to properly set that one.

lfhoward wrote:
I put a link to this cool writeup in the KK How-To’s Index in the Tech Section.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=80240


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Very interesting, I would buy them, if available at a good price, not cheap, but reasonable....

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Very cool! I recently bought a 2012 and was thinking it needs this exact upgrade. Do you have brighter more usable light now?


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NorthendKK wrote:
Very cool! I recently bought a 2012 and was thinking it needs this exact upgrade. Do you have brighter more usable light now?


Brighter yes. The new lights definitely light up the road. But since they are cheap eBay lights, even after leveling out the beam pattern, I fear I have become that guy on the road with blinding LED headlights. I plan on making another set with name brand LED lights, not cheap knock offs.

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I just put led bulbs in mine. They were supposed to be made for a reflector housing. The bulbs had something like a mini shroud over the low beam chip to direct light. You have to take time to adjust to where the blade is in a vertical. I have only been flashed once and that was by someone with very very dim lights.


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Homeward_Bound wrote:
NorthendKK wrote:
Very cool! I recently bought a 2012 and was thinking it needs this exact upgrade. Do you have brighter more usable light now?


Brighter yes. The new lights definitely light up the road. But since they are cheap eBay lights, even after leveling out the beam pattern, I fear I have become that guy on the road with blinding LED headlights. I plan on making another set with name brand LED lights, not cheap knock offs.


How much did you spend?


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A little off-topic but with all the electrical parts pulled apart, maybe not too far off. How easy is it to add factory fog lights to the OEM headlight assemblies? Is the factory wiring already there at both the headlight and the dash, so it's close to plug-and-play to add?

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Here you go. There is a Mopar kit for that.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=54379

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lfhoward wrote:
Here you go. There is a Mopar kit for that.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=54379


Thank you very much for the info and link.

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NorthendKK wrote:
Homeward_Bound wrote:
NorthendKK wrote:
Very cool! I recently bought a 2012 and was thinking it needs this exact upgrade. Do you have brighter more usable light now?


Brighter yes. The new lights definitely light up the road. But since they are cheap eBay lights, even after leveling out the beam pattern, I fear I have become that guy on the road with blinding LED headlights. I plan on making another set with name brand LED lights, not cheap knock offs.


How much did you spend?



In total? Between just the parts alone, maybe 250?

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