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Get the sensor and wiring checked. You will note that the error message says "short to ground": that could be a damaged wire or a broken sensor.



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Get the sensor and wiring checked. You will note that the error message says "short to ground": that could be a damaged wire or a broken sensor.



Howd you go with yours Chris?????


Cleaned the battery, and the throttle.. no more engine light on the dash or code :D . That was last night.... now... it keeps stalling :roll: Took it around the block and it keeps stalling :roll: :roll: I was going to take it to Jeep on the way to work but now :!: :!: Anyway, I'm calling them now.

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Just spoke to Jeep and they said all they do is check to see what the code is (I already told them that :roll: ) then they clear the ECM and reset the computer. After that they simply look to fix the problem, that's as far as the scan tool goes... so they say.

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Which dealer was that, I want to make sure I avoid them in the future? What's the point of having all this electronics and the massive wiring looms if all they do is reset the ECM and clear the code (we can do that). My dark side leaps to the conclusion that they are seeking to justify a large labour charge for 'Looking in to it".


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cmohr wrote:
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Get the sensor and wiring checked. You will note that the error message says "short to ground": that could be a damaged wire or a broken sensor.



Howd you go with yours Chris?????


Unlike CD, I know which Chris you are referring to!

Took it to Albion yesterday and the scan tool showed that it was a glowplug issue. They cleared the error but it returned before I'd reached Abbottsford Rd - however it's not a major worry as it doesn't affect the performance. Booked in for the 50,000 service next Friday and will get it fixed then.

Just realised that I will be at Deepwater next Friday! Better ring Craig and rebook!

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Get the sensor and wiring checked. You will note that the error message says "short to ground": that could be a damaged wire or a broken sensor.



Howd you go with yours Chris?????


Unlike CD, I know which Chris you are referring to!

Took it to Albion yesterday and the scan tool showed that it was a glowplug issue. They cleared the error but it returned before I'd reached Abbottsford Rd - however it's not a major worry as it doesn't affect the performance. Booked in for the 50,000 service next Friday and will get it fixed then.

Just realised that I will be at Deepwater next Friday! Better ring Craig and rebook!


It's a curse having such a good name, you never know what to expect 8)

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Which dealer was that, I want to make sure I avoid them in the future? What's the point of having all this electronics and the massive wiring looms if all they do is reset the ECM and clear the code (we can do that). My dark side leaps to the conclusion that they are seeking to justify a large labour charge for 'Looking in to it".


Chatswood.


I drove it to Mannell Motors http://www.mannellmotors.com.au/ they did a good job last time I took it there so after talking to them about it I took a chance and drove it up. That wasn't a nice drive.

Any way they think it's a solonoid that needs replacing, however they are going to try cleaning it 1st. Then see if it's working, if not it will be a $300 part + labour. Hate to see what Jeep would have charged.

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good choice CD they have a good reputation, you never hear anything bad about them
(but then again I am in Queensland). His comp truck is pretty good to even if is a
something missing if you driving a Datsun

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It's a curse having such a good name, you never know what to expect 8)


Just remember Chris, that when Chris asks Chris a question he expects Chris to answer, so if Chris answers instead things can get very confusing!

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Well Mannell Motors have suggested I take it to Jeep, they can fix it but they have been told by Jeep that the part they want to replace shouldn’t fail... thus further cost if no result. It’s running but quite ruff so enough to get it down to Chatswood. They (Mannell) are happy to do it but recommend I don’t spend the cash, so I’ve bitten the bullet and booked it in for tomorrow. I will ask more detailed questions regarding the scan tool and how it’s going to help as I was a little flawed by this morning’s response.

No charge for today’s work either :D

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Got it Jeep Chatswood this morning and the scan tool put up another error

P0123 Throttle position (TP) sensor A/accelerator pedal position (APP) sensor A – high input Wiring short to positive,TP/APP sensor, ECM Throttle position (TP) switch A/accelerator pedal position (APP) switch A – high input Wiring short to positive,TP/APP switch, ECM

It drove fine all the way to Jeep from home but the engine light had come on again. After Jeep checked code and cleared the thing we started it again with no problem or engine light. I was adviesed to drive it and see what happens... not to spend any dosh just yet. If it happens again they will sell me the part (sensor) and I can fit it or get whoever to do it.

Anyone else had this error code?

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Hey CD,
Early last year I had to have my TP sensor replaced, and prior to that, the camshaft sensor...
Darn these 4wd computers!!!
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Hey CD,
Early last year I had to have my TP sensor replaced, and prior to that, the camshaft sensor...
Darn these 4wd computers!!!
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Oh OK, so did it throw up the same code then. The TP sensor is mentioned in the error code info so it could have been. Do you remember what it cost?

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Yeah, it was the 0123 code, and cost in the region of 300-400 to replace by Jeep.

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Yeah, it was the 0123 code, and cost in the region of 300-400 to replace by Jeep.


Thanks Mikey, I was thinking it would be around that much for the part alone.

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sounds like what Susan's TJ did 3 week's ago. It has been driving around fine since.

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Chris the 0123 code is another Fuel and Air Metering code, specifically : "Throttle/pedal position sensor/Switch A circuit high input". I hope that helps, isn't it going to SVM at Chatswood today?

I've have a Scan tool your welcome to borrow. If you need me to drop it off I can do that as well as I'm not working today.


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Chris the 0123 code is another Fuel and Air Metering code, specifically : "Throttle/pedal position sensor/Switch A circuit high input". I hope that helps, isn't it going to SVM at Chatswood today?

I've have a Scan tool your welcome to borrow. If you need me to drop it off I can do that as well as I'm not working today.


Hi Glen, yep that's where i was at 7.30 this morning. No need for the scan too atm.. but I may call you if need be later :D

If I need a new part then this is it : Throttle Position Sensor .

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sounds like what Susan's TJ did 3 week's ago. It has been driving around fine since.


That's good, could be the last I see of it on mine.

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Throttle Position Sensor is $145.50 + gst, fingers crossed I don't get the light again.

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