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| Author: | pipeliner [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | So what are we going to do now? |
Version 2 of NCOP has been published, and it is not good reading for those of us with ESP fitted to our Jeeps> "2.6 MODIFICATIONS TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH ESC NOT PERMITTED Many modern vehicles are now being equipped with a safety feature known as Electronic Stability Control (ESC). (Also known as Vehicle Stability Control or Dynamic Stability Control). ESC provides motorists additional safety in terms of vehicle stability and handling, particularly in difficult situations where loss of control could otherwise occur. ESC uses computer technology to assist the driver in maintaining control in emergency situations – particularly when executing avoidance manoeuvres involving sudden swerving and in cases when the vehicle begins to slide and rotate sideways. Braking is automatically applied to individual wheels, such as the outer front wheel to counter oversteer, or the inner rear wheel to counter understeer. Some ESC systems also reduce engine power until steering control is regained. ESC is tuned by the vehicle manufacturer for the vehicle to which it is fitted taking into account a number of design parameters such as engine and transmission performance, tyre specifications, steering systems, suspension (type and performance characteristics), mass of the vehicle and weight distribution. Therefore unless specifically permitted by the vehicle manufacturer, vehicles equipped with ESC as original equipment, cannot be modified under the Modification Codes contained in this Section of the NCOP as the current codes do not posses sufficient scope to account for all the parameters noted above. Similarly, vehicles equipped with electronic stability control (ESC) must not have the ESC control unit disconnected or modified. Persons wishing to modify vehicles equipped with ESC must contact their Registration Authority for further information and guidance." Which basically makes my suspension lift and tyres non-compliant. So what the h**l do I do now? |
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| Author: | Fouros [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:13 pm ] |
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mate thats a bugger can you call the reg auth and get further details |
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| Author: | tjkj2002 [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:42 pm ] |
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Well if your laws are anything like our laws there will be a grandfather clause,meaning if you can prove that you modified before this regulation went into effect it should not apply to you. |
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| Author: | CD [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:01 pm ] |
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Quote: tjkj2002
Well if your laws are anything like our laws there will be a grandfather clause,meaning if you can prove that you modified before this regulation went into effect it should not apply to you. Won’t mean squat if you did it prior to the change as you would have had to get your rig certified prior to that change anyway. Personally I don't see why you’re worried, your KJ isn't certified for the lift or larger tyres so why worry about this new law. You’re only going to get busted if a cop pulls you over and wants to question your rig, or if you’re in an accident and the insurance company decides not to payout on your claim as you have an un-roadworthy vehicle. You’ll simply be left to foot the bill for everything. |
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| Author: | cmohr [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:19 pm ] |
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What do the engginners say???? This has vast implication for anyone with a new vehicle. Must be a way to certify allready made changes that fell into existing laws???? |
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| Author: | Glend [ Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:40 pm ] |
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This as fairly massive implications for just about any Jeep made after 2005 MY, even my son's JK has ESP. Typical bureaucrats, NCOP is just trying to avoid legal action, they can't support that sort of modification. As CD says, we're all illegal, and will certainly be LIABLE. This is going to kill the aftermarket. CRDSTU will be out of business, so will Wooders, and the rest. There needs to be a test case. I still have my original springs and shocks and can 'go back' but I don't want to. Maybe I'll have to sell the KJ and the mods, and go back to a pre-regulation vehicle (old CJs will go up in value). A good topic for campfire chat at Coffs. |
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