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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:23 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:20 am 
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We are not saying you must buy Samco boost hoses.

If you want OEM ones or think they are just as good go for it.

Sam did a lot of work on the R&D of these hoses (as did Jimmyjeep and I for the export CRD's). So in other words, Sam knows what he is talking about!

Can't say anything about your US hoses but for the older export 2.5/2.8 the OEM ones were plain crap. And they were over $350 a set. Needless to say I am very happy with my Samco's.

Here's some pics...

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and you do see the '05+ hoses on Ebay every now and then.


Forgive the question if I missed the answer somewhere else ... but what's the diff with the UK/Euro 05+ hose's ?

Think my intake hose has gone REALLY porous and soft I noticed yesterday :roll: , looks original, but the one from the turbo looks fairly new :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
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Forgive the question if I missed the answer somewhere else ... but what's the diff with the UK/Euro 05+ hose's ?

Think my intake hose has gone REALLY porous and soft I noticed yesterday :roll: , looks original, but the one from the turbo looks fairly new :wink:


There are two style of hoses. the 2002-2004 and the 2005-2007.

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:42 pm 
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Doesn't look like anyone ever poster the Jeep CAC OEM part numbers for the two hoses. Here they are;
55037729AC
55037730AC

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
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Recently purchased used '06 CRD w/60K. Liberty Limited is clean, no rust, no record of damage with many options except for Nav. TC was skipping a bit, so I spent some major bucks right away--Suncoast TC, Transgo shift kit, Mag-Hytec pan, FASS lift pump, timing belt, water pump, idlers, an Edge CTS readout primarily for trans temp and exhaust cool down, and a GDE flash. Needless to say, plan to keep for a long time--along with my '01 Ram/Cummins.

Question: Air intake hoses look ok; no problem so far. Hoses are black over red as I view from the end cut. Can anyone tell me if this is OEM or aftermarket, and if OEM, is this an upgrade over what came from the factory build? Just trying to understand my baseline.

My '06 CRD has a build date of 10 Sep, '05; does have the later fuel heater with the bigger heat plug. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
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Wow a lot of read! :SOMBRERO:
If you just found a hole in your inter-cooler-air-charge inlet turbo hose like I did at 130K this is a big help. The Jeep CRD lost power and made a noise from the engine that sounded like an air valve opening. I got a code P0299 - turbo underboost & I noticed oil spray around the coolant reservoir. It sure makes you realize what a difference that turbo makes.
After I found the hole my Forum search brought me to this very helpful piece. Looks like I went farther than most.

Now how to repair & get replacement parts.
SAMCO-TCS380. Samco Turbo Hose Kit - Sale! $259.37
http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=328

http://moparonlineparts.com/repair-parts.php
Intercooler hose - Inlet $199.00 Your Price : $136.85
Intercooler hose - Outlet $138.00 Your Price : $94.76 total $231.61
The advantage is you can buy one with the later but how long will the other last before you need to replace it. If you haven't replaced these hoses you may want to order them to have on hand. When one goes you are kind of helpless especially over a long weekend. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
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From what I can make out the consensus is that the current Mopar and Samco hoses are of similar quality.

My rule of thumb under these circumstances is to buy aftermarket rather than give my money to Chrysler.

A number of members have reported repairing with self amalgamating silicone tape to tide them over until replacements arrive.

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:55 pm 
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For me Samco was the way to go. :mrgreen:
Good old duct tap & a 2" pipe clamp from Lowe's, one that has 2 radiator hose clamps with aluminum in between around a piece of rubber in the plumbing section. Took the rubber out of the clamp, pulled the netting down over the duct tape put the clamp on an made it through the long weekend.

Call & emailed Ted at Boost Controller 877-836-6155 explained my problem & urgency of my order. Ted processed the order and shipped it that day & I received it the next day. (Well I do live in central NY within the one day shipping zone.) He even explained the history behind it all including how members of the "LOST forum" & others were involved in getting this product from SAMCO available for the CRD. Great service!

As budmeister noted earlier:
The OEM hose on the RT side, turbo to cooler, is approximately 1/2 inch smaller in diameter than a Samco. 55037729AC necks up to 2 1/2 " right at the turbo. The Samco hose is about 2" all the way up. That in itself has got to make some improvement in air flow since the left hose is already larger.

Now that the new SAMCO is installed I noticed they don't swell like the old OEM's did when the turbo was winding up. Of course the old ones did have a few years on them.

On to the next project, TB. :SOMBRERO:

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose or Mishimoto
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Just noticed that Mishimoto now makes hoses for the CRD. Any thoughts?? I believe they are big on turbos and intercoolers.

http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=392

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose or Mishimoto
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:51 pm 
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ChooChooman74 wrote:
Just noticed that Mishimoto now makes hoses for the CRD. Any thoughts?? I believe they are big on turbos and intercoolers.

http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=392



Yea, I've seen them for sale on ebAy

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
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My previously totaled CRD had the updated OEM CAC hoses and I never had any problems.

My replacement CRD needed the original top air cooler to turbo hose replaced due to a hole and I decided to try this one available from http://www.Jeep4x4 for $45 dollars to see how it holds up.

Rugged Ridge Intercooler Air Charge Inlet Hose Part # 55038729AA and I am happy to report that it has been working great for the past 6 months now. My turbo response has returned to normal and oil seepage from the hose walls is gone.

Check it out:

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/rugged-rid ... 729aa.html

And here is the link for the lower hose, Rugged Ridge Intercooler Air Charge Outlet Hose 2005-2006 Jeep Liberty (2.8L CRD Diesel) Part # 55037730AD:

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/rugged-rid ... 730ad.html

$45 dollars got me out of a jamb and if it holds up for 3 years, then it's done its job.

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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:14 am 
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racertracer wrote:
My previously totaled CRD had the updated OEM CAC hoses and I never had any problems.

My replacement CRD needed the original top air cooler to turbo hose replaced due to a hole and I decided to try this one available from http://www.Jeep4x4 for $45 dollars to see how it holds up.

Rugged Ridge Intercooler Air Charge Inlet Hose Part # 55038729AA and I am happy to report that it has been working great for the past 6 months now. My turbo response has returned to normal and oil seepage from the hose walls is gone.

Check it out:

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/rugged-rid ... 729aa.html

And here is the link for the lower hose, Rugged Ridge Intercooler Air Charge Outlet Hose 2005-2006 Jeep Liberty (2.8L CRD Diesel) Part # 55037730AD:

http://www.jeep4x4center.com/rugged-rid ... 730ad.html

$45 dollars got me out of a jamb and if it holds up for 3 years, then it's done its job.


Racer, Thanks for the info, I will be replacing mine soon, my originals with 79,000 are starting to weep. The OEM and Samcos are running about the same price. And monies are tight with me. Again Thanks

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racer, thanks for the info, probably give them a try when my blow up.


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 Post subject: Re: Samco or OEM CAC Hose
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I would like to add to this post. I just got my set of Red Mishimoto Hoses, and they definitely taste like Fried Chicken. Colonel Sanders, Original Recipe.

The only swelling I've noticed was in my pants when I opened the box.

Just Sayin'

My wife was told to order the Samco hoses, and directed to Boostcontroller.com, however once she got there and put in a search for Liberty CRD she noted that the Mishimoto's were $6 cheaper and ordered those...

I've gotta love her for doing it for me, frustrated it wasn't what I asked for, but I guess I'll guinea pig for everyone else.

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Hexus wrote:
I would like to add to this post. I just got my set of Red Mishimoto Hoses, and they definitely taste like Fried Chicken. Colonel Sanders, Original Recipe.

The only swelling I've noticed was in my pants when I opened the box.

Just Sayin'

My wife was told to order the Samco hoses, and directed to Boostcontroller.com, however once she got there and put in a search for Liberty CRD she noted that the Mishimoto's were $6 cheaper and ordered those...

I've gotta love her for doing it for me, frustrated it wasn't what I asked for, but I guess I'll guinea pig for everyone else.



These Mishimoto hoses must be something special. They cost $420 dollars plus shipping for the pair.

Have a look: http://www.mishimoto.com/jeep-liberty-2 ... 05-06.html

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racertracer wrote:
Hexus wrote:
I would like to add to this post. I just got my set of Red Mishimoto Hoses, and they definitely taste like Fried Chicken. Colonel Sanders, Original Recipe.

The only swelling I've noticed was in my pants when I opened the box.

Just Sayin'

My wife was told to order the Samco hoses, and directed to Boostcontroller.com, however once she got there and put in a search for Liberty CRD she noted that the Mishimoto's were $6 cheaper and ordered those...

I've gotta love her for doing it for me, frustrated it wasn't what I asked for, but I guess I'll guinea pig for everyone else.



These Mishimoto hoses must be something special. They cost $420 dollars plus shipping for the pair.

Have a look: http://www.mishimoto.com/jeep-liberty-2 ... 05-06.html


$252 from boostcontroller.com

http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=392

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racertracer wrote:
Hexus wrote:
I would like to add to this post. I just got my set of Red Mishimoto Hoses, and they definitely taste like Fried Chicken. Colonel Sanders, Original Recipe.

The only swelling I've noticed was in my pants when I opened the box.

Just Sayin'

My wife was told to order the Samco hoses, and directed to Boostcontroller.com, however once she got there and put in a search for Liberty CRD she noted that the Mishimoto's were $6 cheaper and ordered those...

I've gotta love her for doing it for me, frustrated it wasn't what I asked for, but I guess I'll guinea pig for everyone else.



These Mishimoto hoses must be something special. They cost $420 dollars plus shipping for the pair.

Have a look: http://www.mishimoto.com/jeep-liberty-2 ... 05-06.html


List prices are always "over the Top", they can be bought on eBaY at a comparable price to Samco's

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After reading this thread I couldn't resist pulling my wife's '05 CRD into the garage to do some PM and inspect the CAC hoses. The Liberty has almost 90K miles on the clock and we purchased it in '07 with 17.5K miles on her.

I pulled both hoses, cleaned them well and inspected them closely for any signs of cracking, swelling, and deterioration in general. I'm happy to say they looked like new. They had the OEM part numbers on them that are posted here for new OEM hoses. Did the original hoses have the same part number or could these have been replaced early by the PO?

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After reading this thread I couldn't resist pulling my wife's '05 CRD into the garage to do some PM and inspect the CAC hoses. The Liberty has almost 90K miles on the clock and we purchased it in '07 with 17.5K miles on her.

I pulled both hoses, cleaned them well and inspected them closely for any signs of cracking, swelling, and deterioration in general. I'm happy to say they looked like new. They had the OEM part numbers on them that are posted here for new OEM hoses. Did the original hoses have the same part number or could these have been replaced early by the PO?


Do you remember the color of the inside of the hose? Some where orange and some where black. If it had the updated part number it is the new kind that the PO replaced (maybe dealer did it when he brought it in for a lack or power issue)

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