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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:00 pm 
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how can i water proof my diffs. i heard something about raising the breather tube but im a little confused. after my last badlands trip my diffs filled back up with muck and i had a friend change the fluids again.

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In the tech section is an article on extending the breather tubes.

Breather Article - A how to

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Don't forget the tranny breather, some years you have to drop the trans to get to it. I had to on mine.

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If youre getting it in the diffs there a darn good chance its in the tranny and tcase.. Fun times. Not sure what kinda breather the standard tranny has though..

All youve got to do is lengthen the vent tubes. If you spend long periods of time sitting int he water it will seep by the axle seals, nothing much you can do about that other than change all the fluids after being in water.

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 Post subject: Re: water proofing
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how can i water proof my diffs

stay out of the water.

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how can i clean under the car to see things. i play in mud and my jeep is dirty. its like 5 outside and my bumper is currently held on by 1 clip so i cant go through a car wash. is there any easy way?

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how can i clean under the car to see things. i play in mud and my jeep is dirty. its like 5 outside and my bumper is currently held on by 1 clip so i cant go through a car wash. is there any easy way?
Suck it up and use the manual car wash bays,wear some real warm clothes and go to town on the undercarriage,bring about $20 in quarters.I wash my Jeep,paying alot of attention to the undercarriage,every sunday even if it's snowing,raining,or -30degrees outside.

Not washing your undercarriage after playing in the mud and such(or at least once a moth) can lead to problems,corrosion being the biggest one,taking out seals is the second.


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I lay on my back and detail it by hand with a, water hose, brush and a bottle of APC. :lol: 8)

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 Post subject: water proffing everything
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this could be a good thread...
sooner or later i will be getting a snorkel...now i no that it doesn't water proof your jeep it just stops water from coming in breather...i want water proof my jeep better...i have long vent tubes, di-electric grease is on all the connections and fuses, i have rubber seals around the most part of the doors and hatch but i know there is more...

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 Post subject: Re: water proffing everything
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this could be a good thread...
sooner or later i will be getting a snorkel...now i no that it doesn't water proof your jeep it just stops water from coming in breather...i want water proof my jeep better...i have long vent tubes, di-electric grease is on all the connections and fuses, i have rubber seals around the most part of the doors and hatch but i know there is more...
Much,much more.I've worked on vehicles with deep water fording kits for 9 years which were designed to drive in 60" of water,stop,turn off the engine,re-start after 10 mins and drive away with no problems with water getting into areas where it's no supposed to be.


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tjkj2002 wrote:
ohv_kj wrote:
this could be a good thread...
sooner or later i will be getting a snorkel...now i no that it doesn't water proof your jeep it just stops water from coming in breather...i want water proof my jeep better...i have long vent tubes, di-electric grease is on all the connections and fuses, i have rubber seals around the most part of the doors and hatch but i know there is more...
Much,much more.I've worked on vehicles with deep water fording kits for 9 years which were designed to drive in 60" of water,stop,turn off the engine,re-start after 10 mins and drive away with no problems with water getting into areas where it's no supposed to be.



o great leader, we come to you in need of guidance. please share your knowledge with us on this subject. (some one give him an offering). how do we water proof jeep libertys?

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Ms5490renegade wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
ohv_kj wrote:
this could be a good thread...
sooner or later i will be getting a snorkel...now i no that it doesn't water proof your jeep it just stops water from coming in breather...i want water proof my jeep better...i have long vent tubes, di-electric grease is on all the connections and fuses, i have rubber seals around the most part of the doors and hatch but i know there is more...
Much,much more.I've worked on vehicles with deep water fording kits for 9 years which were designed to drive in 60" of water,stop,turn off the engine,re-start after 10 mins and drive away with no problems with water getting into areas where it's no supposed to be.



o great leader, we come to you in need of guidance. please share your knowledge with us on this subject. (some one give him an offering). how do we water proof jeep libertys?


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yeah...you can't give us that great pre-cursor then not tell us anything...lol

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Ms5490renegade wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
ohv_kj wrote:
this could be a good thread...
sooner or later i will be getting a snorkel...now i no that it doesn't water proof your jeep it just stops water from coming in breather...i want water proof my jeep better...i have long vent tubes, di-electric grease is on all the connections and fuses, i have rubber seals around the most part of the doors and hatch but i know there is more...
Much,much more.I've worked on vehicles with deep water fording kits for 9 years which were designed to drive in 60" of water,stop,turn off the engine,re-start after 10 mins and drive away with no problems with water getting into areas where it's no supposed to be.



o great leader, we come to you in need of guidance. please share your knowledge with us on this subject. (some one give him an offering). how do we water proof jeep libertys?


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1-Need modified PCV valve with a diverter switch,run switch to interior
2-Modify P/S pump cap with a vent
3-Run all breather tubes to modified PCV valve(trans,t-case,F/R diffs,P/S pump,and gas tank),run one vent line from PCV valve to snorkel intake when PCV valve is in normal position
4-Install totally sealed snorkel
5-Covert all electrical connectors(inside and out) with waterproof connectors
6-Waterproof all CPU's(PCM,TCM,BCM,ABS,SRS)
7-Cut drain holes in floor
8-Extend exhaust to equal height as the snorkel intake
9-Modify alternator to one that is waterproof

The purpose of the modified PCV valve is to divert the engine crankcase pressure to all the other components to pressurize them so water can not enter since air is being force out of the seals,don't forget to turn off the diverted PCV valve when exiting the water as not to blow all seals.Waterproof electrical connectors and CPU's is self explanitory,as is the raise intake and exhaust.


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Actually when it comes to cleaning the underside - I realize (right now) it's a little too cold for some of us to bring out the garden hose, but using a strong lawn sprinkler is also a good way to clean the underside of your KJ.

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what is a pcv valve?
why would you cut drain holes in your floor ?
how do you water proof you computers

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what is a pcv valve?
why would you cut drain holes in your floor ?
how do you water proof you computers


1-PVC = Positive Crankcase ventalation
2- Gotta let the water out that will get into the interior in deep water drain out fast,and it will get in in 30"+ water(the KJ is not waterproof at all)
3- Place in waterproof box,that includes the fuse panels also(sorry forgot that one in the list)


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Ms5490renegade wrote:
what is a pcv valve?
why would you cut drain holes in your floor ?
how do you water proof you computers


1-PVC = Positive Crankcase ventalation
2- Gotta let the water out that will get into the interior in deep water drain out fast,and it will get in in 30"+ water(the KJ is not waterproof at all)
3- Place in waterproof box,that includes the fuse panels also(sorry forgot that one in the list)



what if the deepest water i plan on going through is to the silver middle part of my bumper? what would i have to do then?

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if you extend your breathers you should be fine to go as high as half way on the headlights but any higher and it will start flowing into the air intake box

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