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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:11 pm 
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"The SJ coils were found to sag over time and IIRC, that is one reason they changed to OME."

My memory is not the best and now that it was mentioned by Quinn, I do recall them mentioning some supply problems. I think a couple people had sagging SJ coils, but that might not be why All J switched at all.

I can say that out of 2 KJ's, I have wheeled both hard and not had any problems with the Frankenlift or dealing w/ ALL J. My CV's are still stock and original and knock on wood, still fine.

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I apologize in advance for sounding like a peckerhead, but again, I've moved on and as a result of previous posts hinting at my disatisfaction have been contacted by others with similar dilemmas. The problem is that they don't want to speak ill of All J. I'm just speaking for the silent minority. I'll let them decide if they want to chime in and I hope that they will.

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Fdezone...I am sorry for the experience that you had to go through. I know all about things not working the way they are supposed to and it sucks.

I based my cutting edge comment on the fact that the Frankenlift is a 2.5 lift unlike the Rusty's which is only 2. We play in a game of inches and that last 1/2-1 in. makes all the difference in the world because all the parts are pushed to the most extreme angle while remaining driveable and dependable. The Frankenlift is cutting edge. Unfortunately, it is not revoulutionary which is what we need. I feel bad for what you had to go through and I would be pissed also but I think it is the "variance" of which I spoke of earlier. For instance, we had a member in AZ (LOSTTJ) who first learn to wheel with a Liberty. We discovered on his KJ that the whole rear axle was built over to the right by about 1/2 inch. His exhaust assembly was built with it tweaked over to the left. Now, according to DC, everything was still within tolerances and when he drove it on the road everything was fine. However, after lifting the Jeep, we discovered that the u joint that couples the driveshaft to the rear diff would hit his muffler...clang, clang, clang. And that driveshaft spins pretty fast... When driving it was fine but hitting a bump or flexing would create this god awful noise. Because it was within spec pre-lift, they woulddn't fix it. Granted, a fix would be to get a new muffler but why would he have to buy a new muffler when no one else had the problem? Variances...

Maybe yours is tweaked just enough so that Rusty's or any other 2" lift will net you 2.5 instead of 2". I hope everything works out for you in the end. Hang in there bud! And good luck.

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Dave, You are mistaken about the Rusty's lift only being 2". I don't know where you got that information. I measured mine and I got 2 5/8" of lift when I installed it. I did exact measurements before and after on level surfaces in four different locations on the KJ. No Clevis lift involved. I bought mine when we had that huge group buy back in October of 2004 with no variances to the lift.

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I apologize in advance for sounding like a peckerhead, but again, I've moved on and as a result of previous posts hinting at my disatisfaction have been contacted by others with similar dilemmas. The problem is that they don't want to speak ill of All J. I'm just speaking for the silent minority. I'll let them decide if they want to chime in and I hope that they will.


Have they ALL contacted ALL J to try and work out their problems?

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It is my understanding that they have contacted All J. Again stating that they, All J, are so kind and polite. They feel uncomfortable or maybe even intimidated by All J that they continue to give them the benefit of the doubt. That was my problem. I should have followed my initial instinct to simply remove a spacer to bring the vehicle down a bit. But instead, I listened to Quinn, following his recommendation to continue to drive it for a while and expecting it to settle. And that's where my problems began. I'm not saying Quinn is a bad guy or that All J is a bad shop. I'm simply saying that I felt dismissed with a bad recommendation. I'm not looking for anything. You live and learn. The Liberty will probably go to my daughter, so the lift will be removed and I've already purchased a new toy.

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On that note, I am going to go ahead and lock this thread.

If anyone has issues or problems with anything they have purchased from Any vendor, they should take it up with that vendor off line. I know that ALL J would want to hear of any problems first hand through a phone call or email and not posted on the internet. I am also pretty sure that holds true for Any other vendors.


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