Chip Claims to "turn off EGR"

INMotionTuning · **Joined:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:32 am **Posts:** 10

Hello,

We have been chip tuning since 1997. Unlike a plug-in module that just glitches the computer to supply more fuel, we actually do actual modifications to the control maps inside your ECU. We not only have the capability to modify boost, fuel and start of injection maps, have a capability to reduce the EGR portion of the firmware to virtually nil, meaning a car that would plug the intake in 20-30K miles will take 200K. We can even remap your throttle pedal positioning! Custom tuning and special requests are never a problem.

Addressing the issue of Dealership reflash. We advise our customers to seek out a knowledgeable independent repair facility before taking their car to a Stealership. In most cases the technician will be more highly skilled, and you will receive a higher level of service for less money. The independents actually care whether or not your going to come back again and whether or not your going to tell your friends and family to get your car fixed there. Dearships are full of "parts changers" looking for the quickest solution to your problem. All of our tunings that are purchased directly come with a lifetime firmware warranty, if you get victimized by stealership reflash, just remove your ECU and send it in for a warranty flash.

ECU CLONING SERVICES ARE AVAIL!!!!! If you send us either a brand new or good used ECU with your original ecu, we can make an identical "Clone" that can plug & play at any time. Some customers prefer this solution to the whole "Dealer problem"

For your peace of mind, we save the original entire contents of all ECU's that are mailed in for tunings. This way if something goes horribly wrong we always have a "back-up plan". We can load your original files into any new or used ECU and you are good to go.

Please bear in mind that the intentional removal of an emissions control device on a USA vehicle driven on a public motorway of any kind is subject to a $50,000.00 fine. We DO NOT endorse the use of our tunings in any illegal or immoral way. Since we are modifying your mailed ECU we can adjust the EGR portion of your firmware for off-Road and closed course racing use only. We will not delete the EGR for local mobile tuning customers so please do not ask. Our firmware developers are on the cutting edge of technology and in most cases are 3 years ahead of the USA competition. I look forward to exceeding your expectations. Please email all questions and comments to info@inmotionusa.com

Gunter Heckman
Director of US Operations
www.inmotiontuning.com

Jeger · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:11 pm

Sounds hopefull for the folks out there with poor fuel mileage, perhaps a little timing change could straighten things right out?

greiswig · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:54 pm

INMotionTuning wrote:

(SNIP) ECU CLONING SERVICES ARE AVAIL!!!!! If you send us either a brand new or good used ECU with your original ecu, we can make an identical "Clone" that can plug & play at any time. Some customers prefer this solution to the whole "Dealer problem"

For your peace of mind, we save the original entire contents of all ECU's that are mailed in for tunings. This way if something goes horribly wrong we always have a "back-up plan". We can load your original files into any new or used ECU and you are good to go. (SNIP)
Gunter Heckman
Director of US Operations
www.inmotiontuning.com

Gunter,

Thanks very much for joining us here. I take your point about taking vehicles to qualified independents before taking it to a stealership. However, many of us still have vehicles still under warranty, and the dealership is the only way to get "fixes" done free. It is admittedly frustrating that, often as not, the "fixes" in question do apparently little to fix the issue and sometimes cause other problems.

With that in mind, I'd like to ask for some clarification on the Cloning Service: my understanding is that you do *not* install a new chip in the ECM, but rather just reprogram the onboard EPROM. So individuals needing to face a stealership would literally need to have an extra ECM (the whole thing) rather than swapping out a chip. Otherwise, they would be in the position of needing to mail back the ECM to you after the stealership had done their dirty work. True? Were such a thing to happen, what would be the additional cost to individuals who had previously had flash work done?

clday25 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:24 pm

Had a phone conversation with Gunter from InMotion today at lunch. He answered all my question very thoroughly and pretty much sold me on having my ECU tuned.

He indicated that he probably won't be monitoring this or any other forum, so emailing him at info@inmotionusa.com is the best way to get your questions answered.

Also, he told me to pass along a group buy offer (20% discount) again, email him for more information.

Now I just need to find some extra $$$ and available Jeep downtime to make this happen!

Chris

Endurance · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:56 pm

Sounds great.

Numbers would be good, price and actual performance improvement examples.

jaciii · **Joined:** Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:09 am **Posts:** 25

I think I'm gettin wood over this. Ebaying for Spare ECU now....

MoLibertyCRD · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:07 pm

clday25 wrote:

Also, he told me to pass along a group buy offer (20% discount) again, email him for more information.

Is that 20% off of the $300 price? If so, I might be able to come up with $240 if I skip lunch this month....

How long did he plan to extend the group buy offer? I blew an EGR code the other day and want to get it replaced before sending in my ECU...

litton · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:48 pm

Can someone tell us if our ECU is used in other DC products? I just have to believe that this is a common part with only the software being custom. I like the spare ECU concept if we can find a source for used ones.

clday25 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:59 pm

MoLibertyCRD wrote:

Is that 20% off of the $300 price? If so, I might be able to come up with $240 if I skip lunch this month....

How long did he plan to extend the group buy offer? I blew an EGR code the other day and want to get it replaced before sending in my ECU...

The 20% is off the $400 price he quoted me... but this price includes lifetime re-tunes for free. So, from my understanding, you can send your ECU back in and have it changed again and again with no limit.

There was no end date for the group buy, but like i said before, you should email him with questions and get it from the horses mouth. He knows a lot about the CRD.

Chris

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:14 pm

This definitely sounds promising...the only problem is that CRD ECU's will be hard to find...not too many junkyard CRDs I would think. The free return programming sounds promising. The real upside is that we might not need all the dealership warranty work on EGRs ect. with a properly running CRD. The toher thing is that if you don't like the Chip you can always get back your original ECU setup.

Plus this would give me a chance to rent a Viper or something for a day or two...

Endurance · **Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:49 pm

DarbyWalters wrote:

ASFIR Aluminum Engine/Tranny-Transfercase/Fuel Skids and StepRail Sliders

Mr. BIG MONEY ha ? :lol:

Jeger · **Posted:** Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:28 am

Maybe we can get our resident parts guy to cross reference the ECU part number for us, see if its used in anything else.

Who was it......
....searching

Ah, yes

Elwenil, could we use your services please?

crdmike · **Joined:** Tue May 16, 2006 7:25 pm **Posts:** 138

I really don't need a second ECU - I need Gunter to hook me up with one of those rapid flash units!

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:01 am

Endurance wrote:

DarbyWalters wrote:

ASFIR Aluminum Engine/Tranny-Transfercase/Fuel Skids and StepRail Sliders

Mr. BIG MONEY ha ? :lol:

If you only knew what I DIDN'T pay

litton · **Posted:** Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:48 am

A source for ECU's.

http://www.ecudirect.com/finditfast/def ... &type1=rnr

I just did a GOOGLE for Chysler ECU's and found several sources. This may not be a bad way to go but it is a bit expensive. I figure ~ $800.00 for the ECU and then INmotions programing.

Still, it might be worth it if the EGR replacement cost is about the same.

INMotionTuning · **Joined:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:32 am **Posts:** 10

Hello,

I just got off the phone with my contact at Daimler. The Liberty ECU is on National Backorder. Cost is $725.00 Clone services cost $100.00 I would suggest searching Canadian junkyards for the ECU, I do not have the exact import numbers but diesel models are usually more frequent up north. Please email questions to info@inmotionusa.com

Gunter Heckman
Director of US Operations
www.inmotiontuning.com

Tinman · **Joined:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 308

There should be no need to send in your ECU. Inmotion needs to get a downloader to sell with all the software to do the job. There is currently only one American sold programer for diesels (for Dodge/Cummins only) that is undetectable (even after returning to stock programing) by the dealer, so most downloaders will void your warrenty. It sounds like Inmotion has the software programs all ready to go. A good downloader should save your factory program (including reflashes) and return to stock as needed and not be detectable. Hopefully there will be enough of a market in the CRD to make it happen. Inmotions product is a good first step. I'll wait for a downloader. :lol:

crdmike · **Joined:** Tue May 16, 2006 7:25 pm **Posts:** 138

This is all we need:

THE RAPID FLASH UNIT

STEP # 1. After confirming you have the correct ECU*, purchase your new/blank Rapid-Flash unit, we ship it to you with instructions on how to plug it in and read your ECU's original Firmware version. This eliminates the need to send us your ECU, meaning you have no vehicle downtime, and eliminates the chance of post-tuning firmware issues.

STEP # 2. Return hip your Rapid-Flash unit to our tuning center and choose your FREE Stage-1 or 2 tuning, you can at that time add up to 2 more separate and selectable performance levels priced at and additional $150.00-$250.00 per performance stage. Choose from Pump gas or racing gas modes on the Mini cooper. Multiple VW diesel horsepower modes. Or you can also select a Security Program (Car won't start even with the correct key), Valet (Lowered HP, lower RPM, Lower MPH), or Teenage driver (Lowered HP, lower RPM, Lower MPH) other custom settings are also avail. Just ask your sales representative.

STEP # 3 We send your programmed unit back with the options you have chosen. You can then plug it into your OBD port, located under the dash on most cars, follow the on screen prompts and push the buttons on the face of the unit to select your horsepower level , any time you want! Flash back to stock any time you want. NOTE: Each Rapid-Flash Programmer can be used on one single vehicle only.

INMotionTuning · **Joined:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:32 am **Posts:** 10

Tinman wrote:

There should be no need to send in your ECU. Inmotion needs to get a downloader to sell with all the software to do the job. There is currently only one American sold programer for diesels (for Dodge/Cummins only) that is undetectable (even after returning to stock programing) by the dealer, so most downloaders will void your warrenty. It sounds like Inmotion has the software programs all ready to go. A good downloader should save your factory program (including reflashes) and return to stock as needed and not be detectable. Hopefully there will be enough of a market in the CRD to make it happen. Inmotions product is a good first step. I'll wait for a downloader. :lol:

"Don't hold your breath" The Rapid-Flash is for the BOSCH EDC15V ECU's only. Your ECU is much, much more sophisticated as it has an encryped processor. At this time an OBD programmer is $2,000.00usd. I highly doubt a more "cost effictive" solution will come within the next 3-4 years. F.Y.I. Purchase of the OBD programmer and a Tuning file buy-in will qualify you as an authorised INMotion Tuning USA Distributor. The programmer will do most European cars on the road today...

www.inmotionusa.com/instructions/Euro_Price_list.htm

litton · **Posted:** Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:29 pm

Question....isn't the resident program on an eprom? If so, why not just replace the e-prom with whichever program serves your needs?

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