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 Post subject: WI/IL/MI-Any lifted CRD's?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:08 pm 
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I want to get rid of the stock tires and go a little bigger (maybe 245/75R16). After a bumpy bad lift experience with my XJ I want to keep the ride as smooth as possible. My biggest complaint with the XJ was the incessant bouncing. Holy crap it was like riding a pogo stick!

Anyway, does anyone near to Milwaukee have a lifted CRD? I live in Milwaukee, so the closer the better, but I'll be in Detroit for 3 days around Thanksgiving. I would love to take a ride and listen to any feedback/advice you have to give!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:29 pm 
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I don't think there is a lifted CRD in WI - at least not from a member of this club....
There is one in the northwest burbs of chicago - member ID is bugnout - look him up
He'll give you more info..

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:09 pm 
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Thanks for the heads up! I'll look him up!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:31 am 
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Location: SW Michigan
2005 CRD
1.5 / 2" daystar installed 3 weeks ago. LOVE IT!

The jeep is my daily driver (42K so far)
As I spend a lot of time in the seat - Ride quality and durability was a must.

After the install, me and the Mrs. drove 3.5 hours to the Badlands.
no complaints (at least about the jeep ride :wink: )

I roll on Michigan roads, so some good, most not so good. I have a lifted KJ that will just about throw you out of the seat; I also did not want to have that problem.

From my observation: if you go with the 1.5/2 you can get the 31" and keep your ride quality.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:03 pm 
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Spowers wrote:
2005 CRD
1.5 / 2" daystar installed 3 weeks ago. LOVE IT!

The jeep is my daily driver (42K so far)
As I spend a lot of time in the seat - Ride quality and durability was a must.

After the install, me and the Mrs. drove 3.5 hours to the Badlands.
no complaints (at least about the jeep ride :wink: )

I roll on Michigan roads, so some good, most not so good. I have a lifted KJ that will just about throw you out of the seat; I also did not want to have that problem.

From my observation: if you go with the 1.5/2 you can get the 31" and keep your ride quality.


Are you SW lower Michigan or SW Upper Penninsula Michigan? I have the same lift. It's the Daystar 1.5" Front Spacer and 2.5" Rear Spacer. After you remove your factory lower spring pad in the rear your left with 2.0" in the rear. In the front, the CRD coils are so stiff that there is no sag so you net anywhere from 1.75" to 2.0" in the front. Drives rock solid, I love it too!

Best thing is, being what I call an 'intermediate' lift, your front CVs are nearly level putting your tires at their farthest horizontal point from the engine bay, thus, my 255s don't rub when turning! Also, no worries about CV angles so long term durability for the front suspension components can be expected!

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 Post subject: Daystar KJ09123
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:04 pm 
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Alljeep & Spowers: You guys got me fired up about the Daystar KJ09123 lift! Mine's supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I'm slobbering like a kid on Christmas morning. :P My Hummer-building brother and I will install the lift in South Bend on Saturday morning. You're both welcome to join us; your experience would be invaluable.

Although my KJ has the gasoline engine, do you have any installation tips other than taking the strut assemblies to a tire shop for inserting the front spacers? I will get my alignment done Monday or Tuesday. Do I just need a front-end alignment or 4-wheel alignment?

I have no immediate plans to upgrade my struts or shocks. I'm going to wait and see how the KJ wheels with the stock parts. Because I drive on pavement 99 percent of the time, I can live with an offroad ride that's less than perfect.

T.J.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:38 pm 
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I am in SW lower - Holland Saugatuck area.

I would love to come down and help, but I have plans... some things I found:

1. Take your time, it is not a race.
2. remove the clevis BEFORE you fully unbolt the strut, otherwise your handeling a 50 LB strut assembly loose in the wheel well - not fun. This will be different than the Daystar directions.
3. I used the pry-end of a crowbar to open the strut, it fit perfectly, opened just enough to gently drop off ( after I re-bolted the strut up)
4. do not get greese on the taper face of the balljoint, it will be a real bear to get back on - if the ball joint slips in the knuckle, use said crowbar to apply downward force on the upper a-arm, this will help increase the friction on the taper and you should be able to tighten it up.

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 Post subject: Re: Daystar KJ09123
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:35 pm 
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Video Guy wrote:
Alljeep & Spowers: You guys got me fired up about the Daystar KJ09123 lift! Mine's supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I'm slobbering like a kid on Christmas morning. :P My Hummer-building brother and I will install the lift in South Bend on Saturday morning. You're both welcome to join us; your experience would be invaluable.

Although my KJ has the gasoline engine, do you have any installation tips other than taking the strut assemblies to a tire shop for inserting the front spacers? I will get my alignment done Monday or Tuesday. Do I just need a front-end alignment or 4-wheel alignment?

I have no immediate plans to upgrade my struts or shocks. I'm going to wait and see how the KJ wheels with the stock parts. Because I drive on pavement 99 percent of the time, I can live with an offroad ride that's less than perfect.

T.J.


The issue here is that your gasoline KJ has significantly softer front springs than the CRD does and as such, you may only get a true 1.5" lift in front instead of 1.8"+ like a CRD. You will just have to install it and see how you like it. Mine does sit slightly nose down when empty of gear and low on fuel, but when loaded up my back springs sag a bit and it's level. I also have a front mount hitch and hooks installed so I have another 50lbs up front than I started with when stock or I may have been closer to a true 2.0" lift in the front like other CRDs. You can always do the clevis lift later without having to disassemble the strut assembly so that's an option to getting a little more up front. I may have to do this as well after a few years but I'm waiting to see for now.

I had a professional shop here in town do my install and alignment because the CRD springs are too stiff for any kind of rental spring compressors available but I do fully understand how it's installed and what it takes to get it that way. You will have the entire front strut assemblies out so if you want to put a Rusty's 3/8" steel spacer on top of the strut assembly, now is the time to do it.

You really need the input of a gasser with this kit for a good answer on what to do or not, but I have searched this forum and found a good review of this kit on a gasser.

I guess the main thing I'm saying here is you will be more nose down than a CRD after this lift...

To answer your questions, you will need a front end alignment. Due to your softer springs, you do not need to go to a shop to get the springs compressed and everything installed, but it would be easier if you did. As for your front struts, how many miles are on them? Mine were new, so I left them in. If you already have 50k+ miles on them it would be easy to switch them out now instead of having to pull the whole thing apart again another 20k miles down the road. Rear shocks are easy so wait until they are dead for sure.

I would love to help, and would do so, but I have had some major family medical issues that have left me the sole caretaker of my kids and wife as my wife is still recovering for another month (6 months down, one to go!!!). Starting the new year I can become much more available again. Good luck with the lift!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:50 pm 
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Spowers wrote:
I am in SW lower - Holland Saugatuck area.


You'll have to show me a few spots to wheel sometime. My inlaws are just SW of South Bend, IN so when I'm up in the "inlaw zone" I'd be close enough for a quick half day trip... 8)

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 Post subject: Lifted!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:52 pm 
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I'm happy with it. During the post-lift trail ride, I managed to hump over a few hills that would have high-centered me before. The Daystar KJ09123 is just enough to make a difference, and the price is right. We drove around with the mud paint job for about 24 hours and were getting all kinds of looks. Pretty funny. People just don't expect to see a KJ offroad.

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