SnowgodCCR wrote:
Good for you, it sounds like you have a nice truck that you like alot. I happen to like mine. It also sounds like you're trying to start a pissing match over nothing.
I'm talking about on paper, and in safety features (side airbags), and in comfort, and in price (NEW) and in bang for the buck, not nessicarily talking about the 1 inch on either side that the JK is wider than the TJ.
Yes, it CAME off the lot with 32" MTRs and the ability to fit up to 34" with NO mods.
Yes, it CAME off the lot with front and rear lockers.
Yes, it CAME off the lot with a front swaybar Disco (who wants to get out and get muddy to disco the bar?)
No, it came off the lot under 30k, about 3-4k less than a TJ rubicon.
I'm not saying that the TJ is a piece of crap here, I'm just stating facts. I have a better approach, breakover, and departure angles, a comparable turn radius, and I paid less for it. You're taking so much offense at nothing. And don't give me the "real jeeps are built not bought" crap. I wanted to buy a vehicle that will give me the most for the money I pay for it up front, and I did. I can take the 4k that I saved over buying last years model (not anymore, the dealers can't get rid of them around here) and buy some bigger tires that will fit without any mods, maybe new bumpers, some other stuff if there's any money leftover.
I didn't say anything about it being better than everything else out there, I merely said that it IS in fact, a better vehicle than the TJ (which is an amazing truck nonetheless). I'm sorry, I didn't realize that we all drive our vehicles within 1" tolerances on either side, in reference to you "squeezing" past in your TJ.
I started this thread with a few pictures of me going out and having fun, and apparently you guys need to get out and have some fun as well, because you sound really pissed off.
I'm seriously not looking for an argument here, I've just been put on the defensive, and this is what happens.
a few quick things
you are the one who stated that the JK was better in "every way" wich we know it is not compareable yes better no
as to the better break over how? longer wheel base and not high enough to make up for it 1 or 2* is only for the sales lit. The same can be sid for the approach and depart angles "plastic meet rocks ,rocks eat plastic"
and I dont know if you had a look at your drive shaft yeah it is huge but look at the end no U-joint better right?
only if the joint is bigger than the yolk on the end of the DS but it is smaller than the TJ front DS
and in what world can you replace the 32's with 34's no lift? that was a joke right? to fit 33's you need to do a budget boost I dont own one and know that
I am not a purest and will not say any thing about real jeeps are built ,you know that, but I will correct you if you are wrong and down what I drive
remember that I drive my KJ to 2 different 4X4 club meetings monthly and take it to several other events through out the year so I know about the purest
I tell them that they dont have to drive it I do and I also dont go around telling the YJ guys that the TJ is hands down better I show them
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. I've been looking forward to it all week!
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), but I show up to work muddy or drive around muddy and people get the point. It is the vehicle I bought it hauls my kids around and is a way better 4x4 then I thought it would of been (had a toyota 4runner before). So if someone is taking their jeep off-road and having fun who cares if ur jeep has a foot of lift and 40's. Just enjoy it and have fun that is all that should matter.