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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:46 pm 
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[quote="kolesy"][quote="KY Liberty"]I think you might gain back some high rpm hp, but you're going to drop some low rpm torque.[/quote]

So teach a new guy here, The more back pressure you have the more torque you will gain. The less backpressure you have, the more high rpm horse power you gain, but you lose torque? :?[/quote]

you arent going to lose some low end torque, with your huge, way-oversized exhaust you will lose all low end.

as far as H pipes go, they are counterproductive with chambered mufflers like flowmasters, which rely on the pulses cancelling each other out. when you use an H pipe before them, you are dulling the very thing which will not only quiet the exhaust but also you are negatively affecting the mufflers scavenging ability. put the H pipe after all this type of muffler. people have mistakenly said that flowmasters are restrictive, thats because they dont install them correctly.

but the bottom line is that this size motor can not put out any more power than is supported by the stock sized single exhaust, with the exception of the stock muffler and the pinch down just before it.

and there is nothing you can do to this engine without replacing many internals that can make it utilize any larger than the stock sized pipe.

people that claim they are gettin big gains from their huge exhaust or duals are just blowing the same smoke as the idiots in the listen-to-how-loud-my-intake-is people on those commercials. gaining a few hp on the top end and losing 3 or 4 times as much from the actual rev range that they actually drive in is just plain stupid and immature

yea! listen to how powerful my motor is, yea right. DORKs

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you arent going to lose some low end torque, with your huge, way-oversized exhaust you will lose all low end.

as far as H pipes go, they are counterproductive with chambered mufflers like flowmasters, which rely on the pulses cancelling each other out. when you use an H pipe before them, you are dulling the very thing which will not only quiet the exhaust but also you are negatively affecting the mufflers scavenging ability. put the H pipe after all this type of muffler. people have mistakenly said that flowmasters are restrictive, thats because they dont install them correctly.

but the bottom line is that this size motor can not put out any more power than is supported by the stock sized single exhaust, with the exception of the stock muffler and the pinch down just before it.




and there is nothing you can do to this engine without replacing many internals that can make it utilize any larger than the stock sized pipe.

people that claim they are gettin big gains from their huge exhaust or duals are just blowing the same smoke as the idiots in the listen-to-how-loud-my-intake-is people on those commercials. gaining a few hp on the top end and losing 3 or 4 times as much from the actual rev range that they actually drive in is just plain stupid and immature

yea! listen to how powerful my motor is, yea right. DORKs
you respond to a thread that is dead for almost 6 months to insult people?
that is just lame

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not nearly as lame as your response was. at least mine had some useful information, recognize.

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broncsrule wrote:
you respond to a thread that is dead for almost 6 months to insult people?
that is just lame


broncsrule, we're used to it from him.


He puts...

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yea! listen to how powerful my motor is, yea right. DORKs


in his post, but his sig says...

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30in 2 1/4" glasspack, - super cheap and by far best sound



Yeah, glasspacks serve any function at all besides being as loud and obnoxious as possible...?

Glad he calls other immature in the same thread he says "Recognize" though.

gogo troll power!

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gogo troll power!


LOL

Now that is crackin' me up. First good laugh I have had today. Thanks Gris :lol:

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thank you so much for takin the time from recess to chime in with your two cents.

for your information, children, a 30 inch glass pack, properly sized is very mellow, not harsh and gives great ground clearance, and is pretty thick to resist whatever damage it might see.

but at least you feel better knowing you threw in your hardly laughable input on a subject you obviously know nothing about.

you would do better to waste your comments on someone that is as weakminded as yourself.

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Darby, With your rear-axle suggestion, you mean just stop short of the back of the vehicle so the exhaust actually exits under the back of the car instead of behind the bumper?

Would I have to worry about exhaust getting in the cab with that setup?


I don't think you'll have to worry about the exhaust getting in the car, but IMO it will sound much louder in the jeep if the exhaust exits under insted of out the back..

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jcphoto20 wrote:
thank you so much for takin the time from recess to chime in with your two cents.

for your information, children, a 30 inch glass pack, properly sized is very mellow, not harsh and gives great ground clearance, and is pretty thick to resist whatever damage it might see.

but at least you feel better knowing you threw in your hardly laughable input on a subject you obviously know nothing about.

you would do better to waste your comments on someone that is as weakminded as yourself.


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GUY'S let's play nice now & get back on subject :evil:

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exactly... dont waste your time with huge 3 inch duals, you will hate the result.

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That's why I recommend the Mopar/Borla dual outlet to people talking about dual exhausts. It looks like a dual exhaust, sounds good, and the performance is good. Of course, it should work well with the 3.7 considering it was designed by Mopar and Borla. Just don't expect it to perform like you just supercharged your Libby. Unless you spend a lot of money, you can only make subtle changes to the performance.

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