Anyone running BioDesiel?

CarNutCertifies · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:24 am

My Dad is an over the road truck driver and he is starting to use BioDesiel. There is a big push for it in the Trucking world because it burns cleaner, easier on the fuel system and he says he notices a power increase, its cheaper to make, and its not dependent on forigen oil. The only thing is if you switch you have to change your filters pretty regularly in the beginning because it will clean your entire system out. Another thing is with biodesil you can make it in your back yard. Well i just thought i would pass this information on to you guys to look into. This is not something new they are mixing it already in europe with regular desiel (its a gov guildline) Willey Nelson is backing it and it helps the american farmer because it is based off of agriculture products not oil.....Something to look into.

gundrted · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:43 pm

there has been a lot of talk about that on jeepforum.com .... some of it is rather funny

i would but its almost impossible to find in CO. i just use shell

grywlfbg · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:49 pm

Obviously it's pretty popular here in NorCal w/ all the hippies. But even w/ the recent price spikes it's still more expensive than dino-diesel. B100 here is $3.50/gallon. dino-diesel is $3.15 Also there are only 3 places in the Bay area you can get it, none of which are near me. So if/when I finally manage to get a CRD I doubt I'll use it.

I've heard about people brewing their own but the problem is supply. Million dollar idea.... Come up w/ a business plan to the big fast food chains to take their grease (they won't give it to people now... health reasons) and convert that into bio-diesel, you'll make a killing. I bet they'd give it to you free if you took it all, from EVERY site. So there'd be some up-front investment obviously. But I assume they have to pay for it to be hauled away today. If you did it for free it would benefit them and you could sell it for $3/gallon. Hmmm...

Though even w/ that i've thought about going the bio route - www.greasecar.com has kits for ~275 which handles the priming w/ dino-diesel, heating the veg oil, etc. so all you need to do to the veg oil is filter the chunks out. Maybe I should start asking around my local greasy spoons?

CarNutCertifies · **Posted:** Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:17 am

Well Dad gets his from Willy's truckstop down in Tx. He dont mind payin the extra because he feels it makes his truck run better, helps OUR economy(less to Apu) because it helps the American Farmer out, Pluse he claims that when he is pulling over the mountains he says the truck just pulls better. He frequently makes long haul trips to Cali with other drivers in identical trucks from the same company and his truck will out pull the others going over the mountains. He has had drivers walk into the dispatch office and complain because his truck will walk over the mountains easier than theirs. But when he is runnin Dino-desiel he still walks off but not by such a margin. He says flat out truck just performs better. Mind you this is results in an 18 wheeler but they must compare.

Spowers · **Posted:** Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:02 am

B100 dose have one major drawback - Cold weather gelling. Here in Michigan, many of the co-ops are starting to carry b20 which is a 20% mixture of Bio/Dino diesel. This mixture seems to work well with cold weather apps.

Veggie oil itself will not work on a common rail injection system. It only really likes the in-line injector systems found on Isusu, Nissan, and Mercedes, most OTR and heavy duty app. (Cat, Cummins)

Now when I mean Veggie, this is a non cracked Bio diesel but veggie oil straight from the fryer - run through a filter and cook out any moisture set-up. There are serveral concepts on this, but none will work in a CRD (so I'm told). - there is a ton if information on different sights.

crdawg · **Joined:** Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:55 pm **Posts:** 98

this guy in his site can tell everything you want to know about biodiesel and then some http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html .chris

valkraider · **Posted:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:44 pm

grywlfbg wrote:

Million dollar idea.... Come up w/ a business plan to the big fast food chains to take their grease (they won't give it to people now... health reasons) and convert that into bio-diesel, you'll make a killing. I bet they'd give it to you free if you took it all, from EVERY site. So there'd be some up-front investment obviously. But I assume they have to pay for it to be hauled away today. If you did it for free it would benefit them and you could sell it for $3/gallon. Hmmm...?

You are a few years behind. This is already how a good portion of commercial Biodiesel is made. Just here in Oregon we have a refinery producing BD from waste oil, and another under construction.

There is a plumbing company that has contracts to pick up the waste oil from all over the place, and then the BD company buys it from them.

http://www.mrsharkey.com/qfuels/plantmsn.htm

This is being done all over the place...

We have been running our Volkswagen TDI on at least B20 for 50,000 miles, and we have been running our CRD on at least B20 sine purchase, now with 3500 miles. For the last few tanks we have been using B100 as it was 10 cents cheaper ($3.01) than retail petrolium diesel in our area...

My advice is stay away from home-brew. Make sure to use only ASTM certified commercial BioDiesel. While home-brew may seem enticing, quality control is a big concern. While older diesels are more tolerant of bad fuel - I would not expect the same from the modern high pressure injection diesel engines for sale today...

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