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0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:59 pm

darn I was thinking along the same lines Dave. So I guess extreme would be 02-04 fenders, flares, turn signal lenses and housings. I was also thinking for all you welders out there.... extreme scenario again, was if I had the c- channels some how heated and form or pounded as they were warm or maybe even cut and re welded so it would fit right???? suggestions on the extreme worst case scenario??????

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:46 pm

No Ideas anyone??? RL, TED, TROY anyone???

USAFCOP · **Posted:** Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:49 pm

Extreme worst case scenario: Court to get them to do what they should have the first time you called and take it back, instead of "Oh we welded the wrong light tabs on it, and knew it before we sent it out. Just cut them off and fix it yourself"

Too bad you did not record the conversations.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:04 am

0311_DoC wrote:

darn I was thinking along the same lines Dave. So I guess extreme would be 02-04 fenders, flares, turn signal lenses and housings. I was also thinking for all you welders out there.... extreme scenario again, was if I had the c- channels some how heated and form or pounded as they were warm or maybe even cut and re welded so it would fit right???? suggestions on the extreme worst case scenario??????

What you are suggesting here would not work as easily as it sounds. If you have to keep the bumper than (in my opinion) cut the mounts of the bumper, or in your case take it to a fab shop, and make the same thing that fits your jeep at this time you could actually move the mount up a bit before rewelding them on to the bumper this would drop it down some so your lights would not be an issue,they would fit like they should. Or if they do take it back by the time you get it resolved and my bumpers will be in production :wink:

at alot cheaper price ( for the initial lost group buy).

AZScout · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:04 am

I have an '05 my my girlfriend has an '04. I'll take a look tomorrow to see how much different the grills are and if it is doable with some minor trimming maybe.

Dave

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:33 am

man i am so obsessed with this bumper, I want it to work so bad. I just keep thinking if I can somehow re do the inner guts of this thing it would work??? Is this all wishful thinking????

USAFCOP · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:00 pm

0311_DoC wrote:

man i am so obsessed with this bumper, I want it to work so bad. I just keep thinking if I can somehow re do the inner guts of this thing it would work??? Is this all wishful thinking????

You paid for a product that is supposed to work, They need to fix it not you. If you have to do anything they need to reimburse you and they need to give you a partial refund for your trouble and frustration.

I know you already painted it, but do not cut off those light tabs or do any modifying of the bumper, or they will claim you are the reason it does not fit, even though it was clearly built for the '02-'04 not your year.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:37 pm

USAFCOP wrote:

0311_DoC wrote:

man i am so obsessed with this bumper, I want it to work so bad. I just keep thinking if I can somehow re do the inner guts of this thing it would work??? Is this all wishful thinking????

You paid for a product that is supposed to work, They need to fix it not you. If you have to do anything they need to reimburse you and they need to give you a partial refund for your trouble and frustration.

I know you already painted it, but do not cut off those light tabs or do any modifying of the bumper, or they will claim you are the reason it does not fit, even though it was clearly built for the '02-'04 not your year.

ummm.. I already cut off the light tabs per Larry the pres of the company. they were hitting my cross member and would not let the bumper sit flush. after that is when we figured out the other fitment issues :evil:

Yea they do, I cant wait to see what they say tomorrow.... crossing fingers its good news

WoodysKJ · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:08 pm

I know how it can be with being obsessed with something. But that will never excuse them for their misleading advertising and attempts to make you foot the bill for their lazyness and poor designs.

I just spent the better part of 8 hours installing a used ARB for a 05-07 bumper. One i bought used rom a fomer KJer out of Anarbor MI. I drove 400+ miles round trip to pick it up half way and then had it re-powder coated to color match my black 07. ( I know you hate black, but it does look cool). Too dark for pics now but I will get some asap and post.

Pics here now:

Used ARB

Condition of hardware

After Powder Coating

Install so far, too dark after this for more pics. More to come

I am waiting on some replacement parts from ABR. namely replacement parking lights, One was melted as it was insatlled incorectly by the previous owner. And a new ARB badge for the front as it had to be removed for the powdercoating.

I am also waiting on a fog light mount for the OEM lights to be mounted from the griille to the bull bar. The bull bar cover the old holes completely and the one mount apparently never made it through the De-Install in Mich.

ARB is not only sending me this mounting bracket but it is warenteeing it for me. Unfortunately it is on the slow boat from down under, but... the customer service is still there.

Point is that if I had all the necessary hardware and all the parts from the previous owner. I would be in great shape now.

I am very sorry you have to go through all tha. but again they screwed you big time and they should make it right.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:21 pm

WoodysKJ wrote:

I know how it can be with being obsessed with something. But that will never excuse them for their misleading advertising and attempts to make you foot the bill for their lazyness and poor designs.

I just spent the better part of 8 hours installing a used ARB for a 05-07 bumper. One i bought used rom a fomer KJer out of Anarbor MI. I drove 400+ miles round trip to pick it up half way and then had it re-powder coated to color match my black 07. ( I know you hate black, but it does look cool). Too dark for pics now but I will get some asap and post.

I am waiting on some replacement parts from ABR. namely replacement parking lights, One was melted as it was insatlled incorectly by the previous owner. And a new ARB badge for the front as it had to be removed for the powdercoating.

I am also waiting on a fog light mount for the OEM lights to be mounted from the griille to the bull bar. The bull bar cover the old holes completely and the one mount apparently never made it through the De-Install in Mich.

ARB is not only sending me this mounting bracket but it is warenteeing it for me. Unfortunately it is on the slow boat from down under, but... the customer service is still there.

Point is that if I had all the necessary hardware and all the parts from the previous owner. I would be in great shape now.

I am very sorry you have to go through all tha. but again they screwed you big time and they should make it right.

Oh no I love black. I just dont like the black components on an all white vehicle. I wish I had an all black KJ :twisted:

Well tomorrow should prove to be an interesting day. As I said I hope its all positive ....

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:34 pm

0311_DoC wrote:

man i am so obsessed with this bumper, I want it to work so bad. I just keep thinking if I can somehow re do the inner guts of this thing it would work??? Is this all wishful thinking????

Im sure you could get it to work as i stated in another post. move the mounts up enough so your lights would clear the flares,After you get the fitment of them on your sub correct anyhow.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:57 pm

JHCRASH wrote:

0311_DoC wrote:

man i am so obsessed with this bumper, I want it to work so bad. I just keep thinking if I can somehow re do the inner guts of this thing it would work??? Is this all wishful thinking????

Im sure you could get it to work as i stated in another post. move the mounts up enough so your lights would clear the flares,After you get the fitment of them on your sub correct anyhow.

yea I wonder how much that would cost me to have someone re-fab all of that??? I just hope TR stands behind there product, and fixes it, better yet they should get a current 05+ with fogs and re-fit and re-measure.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:05 pm

I completely agree with that. Its too bad your not in utah i would just help ya fix it. I get a kick out of fixing the so called pros f8&^$ ups.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:08 pm

HMMM road trip??? just kidding. Like I said we will what happens tomorrow. If they do make it right, I might have someone down the road beef up those welds for me... we shall see what happens.

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:11 pm

Sin City Vegas I assume. maybe i could convince the wife to head down there she loves to gamble.Well after you see what they say of course.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:13 pm

JHCRASH wrote:

Sin City Vegas I assume. maybe i could convince the wife to head down there she loves to gamble.Well after you see what they say of course.

LOL you gonna tow your welder down here :lol:

yea I wish I did know someone with a welder down here, then I probably would just bypass the hurry and wait game, if they do standby there stuff..

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:17 pm

Well you see I have this beautiful little unit that fits right in the back no problem.

I hope everything works out for ya I guess we will hear all about it tomorrow.

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:37 pm

Well now that I look at the mounts I dont think they can be moved much :evil:

JHCRASH · **Posted:** Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:49 pm

They can if you alter them just a little bit so it still clears where the winch goes and even then you could raise them and dress it up a bit cosmetically.

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