Launch
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Lanch

Over and over again forever.

CEL is on for the ORM and code reader can't read it. I tried another different code reader and that don't read it either. When clearing it says it cleared but didn't. I know the CEL will clear after a few starts after I plug the MAF back in. I don't want the dealer to flash the computer, runs too good.

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2006 Black Jeep Liberty CRD Limited
K&N, Samco Hoses, Michelin 245/70-16 LTX A/T2, Fumoto F-102, V-Force Muffler, Mopar, Hitch, Trailer Wiring, Skid Plates, Slush Mats, Rear Shelf, Predator Stage 1, Transgo, ORM & CodeReader, Facet 40109 Pump
"IT'S A DIESEL THING, YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND"
Certified Services Auto & Truck Repair

YA, thats acting just like it should when there are no codes present. oddddd

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"Its not about what you can DO with your Jeep, its about where you can GO with your Jeep."
Knowledgeable - But Caustic

Guys:

Check fuse box. I recall this kind of reader error when one of the fuses was burnt out on a couple cars (VW's particularly). Reader couldn't read or dlear codes, but acted like everything was fine.

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2005 Liberty Sport CRD w/all the fixings
Elephant Hose, MAF (ORM), Amsoil Airfilter, nice when I get to drive it
1 EGRreplacement, but never again.
99.5 FrankenJetta TDI (R.I.P.): being turned into diesel hybrid!
99.5 Replacement Jetta TDI: deal of a lifetime, EHM, some other stuff

So what's the latest on this?

Is this solution flash dependent? IOW's if you never had the F37/F31 flashes, will this still work? I remember one of the flashes corrected an OBD connection/read problem. Is this flash, or the lack thereof, causing the read/clear problems with this reader?

Ahh.... It was the F31 recall that fixed the OBD communication protocol problems. The problem affected ~3600 2006 model year CRD's. Since mine is a 2005, I shouldn't have a problem...

I got the flash today and the code reader works now like uncaged says. Looks like I got to pay for a recall though.

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2006 Black Jeep Liberty CRD Limited
K&N, Samco Hoses, Michelin 245/70-16 LTX A/T2, Fumoto F-102, V-Force Muffler, Mopar, Hitch, Trailer Wiring, Skid Plates, Slush Mats, Rear Shelf, Predator Stage 1, Transgo, ORM & CodeReader, Facet 40109 Pump
"IT'S A DIESEL THING, YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND"
Certified Services Auto & Truck Repair

BlackLiberty -

I don't know why a dealership service dept would invoke a fee for applying a recall mandated flash update to the ECM. As I understand it, this recall was required by the DOT to make the CRD's OBDII connection compatible with the industry standard OBDII specifications - correctiing a problem that occurred during one of DC's prior TSB flash updates.

If they hooked up your CRD to their magical, proprietary computer system and it indicated the flash was indeed needed on your vehicle (which is sounds like happened), it would seem that performing this flash update was their obligation regardless of the warranty status of the vehicle.

Good luck with it. And if you have luck getting them to absorb the cost, post your experience here.

If you check the last post of this link, you can see the fustration I experianced at the stealership. I was glad to pay the 90 bucks instead of going to jail for choking somebody. I'm going to send the bill with the copy of the recall to Chrysler for reimbusement but rots of rucks on that one.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... hp?t=26828

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2006 Black Jeep Liberty CRD Limited
K&N, Samco Hoses, Michelin 245/70-16 LTX A/T2, Fumoto F-102, V-Force Muffler, Mopar, Hitch, Trailer Wiring, Skid Plates, Slush Mats, Rear Shelf, Predator Stage 1, Transgo, ORM & CodeReader, Facet 40109 Pump
"IT'S A DIESEL THING, YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND"
Certified Services Auto & Truck Repair

Out of curiosity, I called Launch to see what the power draw of the Creader was since I leave mine plugged in 24/7. Tech support couldn't help, so they took my name and number. An engineer called me back and said he didn't know what the exact power usage was, but it was "in the milli, milli amps." He also said that "the computer uses more power than the Creader."

Mine's been plugged in for a month straight, but thought I'd ask about the power usage for the heck of it. Definitely won't worry about it any more.

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06 KJ Limited CRD
mod airbox
EHM
Mishimoto hoses
Weeks Stage1+2
Yeti stage 2 ECM
GDE ECO TCM
FTC billet TC
Transgo kit
no mech fan
Cummins lift pump
2.5" catback
OME 790/948 springs
JBA top plate and UCAs
2 upper rear insulators
Bilstein 24-139168 front 24-186704 rear
255/70R16
1.25" wheelspacers
SkidRow engine plate

Well, I've had this code reader plugged in for a couple of weeks now. I must say that I'm a fan!

I bought the SEGR kit, but by the time it arrived the weather had turned cold. I don't have a garage, so motivation for installing this thing in the cold is pretty low. I read about this code reader and thought that it might suffice until the weather warms up and the SEGR could be installed. Now that I've been using the code reader for a couple of weeks, I'm not sure if I'll ever bother with installing the SEGR. I'm not sure it offers any real advantage. The code reader definitely offers the advantage that no hacking of the wiring harness is necessary. Another advantage is that you don't have to worry about taking the vehicle in for service. You just plug the MAF back in and unplug the reader. There's no SEGR installation for the tech to discover.

I guess the only things that I can find to nit-pick about are as follows:

- The constant cycling of the "LAUNCH" was a little annoying at first. However, I’ve gotten used to it and now hardly notice it anymore.
- The clearing of the CEL lamp takes a little longer after start-up. This is to be expected and is fine with me. The significant-other on the other hand may initially be confused by this the next time she drives the Jeep. This just gives her more ammo to beat me up about my techno-nerd toys.

Unless there is some disadvantage that I'm unaware of - this would be my recommendation as the way to go for the ORM mod. It’s cheap and it’s easy to install, just disconnect the MAF and plug this thing in and you’re done. No wire-harness hacking, no trouble with installing the SEGR box somewhere, no issues surrounding getting the vehicle serviced etc…

Today while at my somewhat local Harbor Freight retailer (Dayton,Ohio) on sale for a modest sum of $29.97 was the Creader gauge thats indicated on this thread . GOT ONE !! Don,t know if these are also same price through online sales or not . Used my savings to extend my warranty for 12 months for a total of $35.97 plus the tax man and no shipping cost .Has anyone else noticed that with CEL on and MAF unplugged that it don't seem to run as well as with CEL off , Creader on and MAF unplugged. Maybe it's just me ? Anyone else have the same experience ?

The CEL light goes out without any difference on mine. It's a good feeling not to have the glaring CEL on and keeps the princess from complaining about it. The ORM does make the engine run a little better for me. When I hooked up my chip, it runs a lot better.

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2006 Black Jeep Liberty CRD Limited
K&N, Samco Hoses, Michelin 245/70-16 LTX A/T2, Fumoto F-102, V-Force Muffler, Mopar, Hitch, Trailer Wiring, Skid Plates, Slush Mats, Rear Shelf, Predator Stage 1, Transgo, ORM & CodeReader, Facet 40109 Pump
"IT'S A DIESEL THING, YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND"
Certified Services Auto & Truck Repair

Does the CRD require a CAN-compliant scanner? I have an old AutoXray EZ-Link OBD-II scanner and it syncs up, but only shows throttle position and RPM. I called AutoXray and they said that by 2006, virtually all vehicles required a CAN-compliant scanner to read anything useful. Is this true, and a "plain" OBD-II scanner is not expected to work with the CRD?

- Chris

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Used to own:
2006 CRD Sport
Suncoast TC, Transgo shift kit, Inmotion, ORM, EHM, Magnaflow SS exhaust, Fumoto valve, EVIC added, Hensley TruControl brake controller, Pirelli Scorpion ATR LR-D in spring/summer/fall, FIA winter front and Blizzaks in winter

I have noticed an uneven idle ocassionally with the MAF unplugged. Time will tell whether this happens with the SEGR.

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'05 Liberty CRD B100, SEGR - SOLD

'01 Beetle TDi B100, EGR delete
'83 Mercedes 240D B100, no EGR

--- SEGR Builder ---

I only finished my segr install last Friday. Drove it 30 miles each way today, to and fro, and it seems to idle smoother and seems to be much quieter. I can't notice any difference in the shut down.
But it sure is nice not to have our amber friend lite up.

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06 Silver Liberty
EHM/SEGR
Fumoto Oil Drain
No rock climbing
No mudding
Hangs behind my
motorhome on tow bars. Semi-retired and still learning.