Another set of Bridgestone Revos?

pierce1979 · **Posted:** Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:53 pm

So I have little over 60k on my CRD now and its almost time to get some new tires. I have the Bridgestone Revos that I got from discount tire when I first bought my jeep new in 05. Should I get another pair? Or something different this time? They have been great in the snow and rain, much better than the crappy Wrangler STs it came with.

I was quoted $720 for new revos, and Discounts warranty/free replacement plan, they said they could probably do about 40-50 bucks better than the written quote, so about $680ish. What do you guys think? Anything better that is cheaper?

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:56 pm

pierce1979 wrote:

So I have little over 60k on my CRD now and its almost time to get some new tires. I have the Bridgestone Revos that I got from discount tire when I first bought my jeep new in 05. Should I get another pair? Or something different this time? They have been great in the snow and rain, much better than the crappy Wrangler STs it came with.

I was quoted $720 for new revos, and Discounts warranty/free replacement plan, they said they could probably do about 40-50 bucks better than the written quote, so about $680ish. What do you guys think? Anything better that is cheaper?

I just paid about $470 for a set of BFG radial long trail TA's in 245/75/16, though I saved $48 in mounting charges that you might otherwise have to pay from disount tire.

Heres my post on the subject, FYI discount will price match tires:
http://lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=26566

Threeweight · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 5:57 pm **Posts:** 679

I loved the Revo's I had on my old rig... went the Firestone Destination AT's on the CRD (highly rated and much, much cheaper). So far they have been great.

How much snow driving do you do? One issue with the Destinations I see is they have almost no siping on them. As I recall, the Revo's didn't have much, but they had more. The General Grabber AT2's are well reviewed and snow rated, and also much cheaper than the Revo's.

I'm probably going to go with a dedicated set of winter tires for my rig.

chrispitude · **Posted:** Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:45 pm

The Destination ATs were quite good in snow, and not bad on ice. The Blizzaks, on the other hand, provide a whole new level of winter capability in the worst of the worst... Slush, followed by snow, followed by sleet and freezing rain? Bring it on.

As great as all-terrain tires are in the snow with 4WD, you still can't beat dedicated snow tires with specialized designs and compounds.

- Chris

Threeweight · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 5:57 pm **Posts:** 679

Ice is what gives me the heebie jeebies. AT ties with aggressive shoulders and voids that will throw snow will do pretty good in getting moving most snow conditions. Stopping and turning are a little different. I drive in freezing fog and ice quite regularly in the winter, though, and the hard compound and no siping on the Destinations makes me nervous.

Pote · **Posted:** Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:12 pm

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As great as all-terrain tires are in the snow with 4WD, you still can't beat dedicated snow tires with specialized designs and compounds.

I am driving on possibly the only exception for this statement for AT tires...you should check them out. It the best of all those worlds in one AT. an AT with a big square shoulder to boot....that's actually a snow/ice tire too.

Threeweight · **Joined:** Mon May 14, 2007 5:57 pm **Posts:** 679

Are your Nokian Vatiiva's snowflake rated? When the weather's nasty in the mountains in Oregon and chain requirements are in effect, our Highway Patrol will slap you with a $100 fine if you are not either 1) running chains or 2) running snowflake rated winter tires.

I was thinking about seeing if I could get some trade-in value for my Firestones and picking up the Nokians... from their website though it looks like the WR SUV tires are the only all-seasons with the snowflake seal of approval.

blacksmoke · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:09 pm

In my experience (last winter in Quebec City) with temperature in the 20s the Revo's compound will become hard and traction start being an issue on snow. Back here in Seattle i like the Revo's handling in the wet and I don't get very cold weather except when going in the mountains.

Nokian is totally the best winter tire manufacturer if you can afford it, but of course the ultimate is separate summer & winter tires, specially if you choose a narrower tire for winter :-)

pierce1979 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:23 pm

Thanks for all the replies, I am a computer field tech and I am constantly on the road for work, regardless of weather, I drive around 30k a year. I almost never go off road with my jeep, but my parents live in rural MI and roads get nasty quick in the winter, so I always keep that in mind as well when I visit them ha...

Pote · **Posted:** Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:35 am

The Nokians are M+S rated and simply don't have the snowflake icon attached yet as they are a very new AT tire. In my researcj, I found that they we a bit late submitting these new tires for the rating system and will shortly sport the snowflake symbol in conjunction with the M+S...but as it stands now, they come from the factory with that mud and snow rating as standard. I think the Vatiivas might be among the best, all season, casual offroad, stellar highway performance in inclement weather AT around. So to answer short, yest they are snow rated. Their secret is in designing an aggressive AT tires with Hakka siping and a multi-cellular compound with all the same properties of a straight up snow tire like Blizzaks. The Hakka siping goes 100% through the entire tread, and one look at the siping, you know you will have the best possible traction on the slipperiest of ice...that's their bread and butter. Whats sets these apart is that its still a very aggressive AT with those properties...things like deep treads with a fairly open lug pattern that duplicates the incredible Revo tire pattern, a big square shoulder on the sidewalls that give it a meaty look. I can't even describe how well these tires perform and can be had for a ssteal over MSRP...mine were almost $50 cheaper PER TIRE than a set of Revo's or BFG KO's. I got them for $103/tire, with discount ($113 before the sale price)

some pics of my rigs meats:

the M+S rating.

deep treads with oodles of Hakka siping

the Revo-like tread pattern and nice square beefy shoulder

closeup of shoulder

driver side front - - this is 5000 miles in and barely any tread wear that I can tell.

onthehunt · **Posted:** Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:13 pm

Sure looks like a Cooper ATR. http://www.coopertire.com/html/products ... overer_atr

Spowers · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:03 am

I am looking to do the same thing - My revos are sitting at about 65K and theye are ok for this winter, but I would like new ones. I am down to 2 options REVO again, or try good year wrangler silent armor (both about same money) the only ting about the good year is they have a $40 cash card good through This Sat. DEc 1 ( basically covers mounting from Disc. tire)
My current thought:
51% stick with Revo
49% Try Silent Armor

Pote · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:41 am

onthehunt wrote:

Sure looks like a Cooper ATR. http://www.coopertire.com/html/products ... overer_atr

yes it kind of does... the Nokian has a more square shoulder IMO as well as double the siping (note the severe Hakka z-shaped siping)..which is key. Not to mention, most siping on tires only goes only 50% through the tread...these Nokians will still be even grippier through winters 2,3, and 4 because the more they wear the stickier they get...part of their multi compound secret...cold weather will NOT make these tires get harder like most ....they are developed for driving around the Alps and in Northern Europe for performance vehicles (think Audi's and BMWs and Mercedes)....no use having them lose traction after the first year or have their rubber get stiffer when it gets real cold out...if you do a bit of research on these and the Nokian company it will be very clear why they are considered among the best...I jumped on them because I don't think the current prices are going to be around that long. In fact, I just saw a Nokian ad on TV for the first time in my life...for their flagship WR series. They have only been in the US since the 90's and with more name recognition, these tires will be priced right along side BFGs, Bridgstone KOs and the rest of the $150-$160 dollar tires before long...hence their steep MSRP right now. They can be had much cheaper...like I got. Again, mine were $113 a piece.

greiswig · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:16 pm

How are those Nokians noise-wise? One thing I do not like about my Goodyear MTR's is their noise on pavement at speed: there's an unpleasant throbbing vibration that comes from them, despite the fact that CAD designs have come a long way toward letting manufacturers anticipate the acoustic signature of potential tread designs.

clday25 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:44 pm

My Coopers do the same thing George, I think its partly to do the wheel balancing..... I'm thinking about giving www.innovativebalancing.com's Dyna Beads a try to see if that helps.

Bonehead · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:22 am

I have 75,000mi on my BF All Terrians(245/70/16) and they will easily see 100,000mi before I need another set......... this is with rotating them every 20-30,000mi.

There will be another set of them going on when they need replaced, they are without a doubt the best wearing tires I have ever had...... and I have had a bunch

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:51 am

Bonehead wrote:

I have 75,000mi on my BF All Terrians(245/70/16) and they will easily see 100,000mi before I need another set......... this is with rotating them every 20-30,000mi.

There will be another set of them going on when they need replaced, they are without a doubt the best wearing tires I have ever had...... and I have had a bunch

I am also very happy with m BFG long trails.

Pablo · **Joined:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1201

I am very impressed with my Revos. I took them out last week on the border run we did (you can see pics in the AZ section). It was raining (snowing, sleeting, hailing, and freezing rain on the road). The Revos did not miss a beat. They went through the clay almost as well as the mud terrains everyone else had. That was nasty clay. When had to stop and take out the hatchet to "chop" the mud out of the wheel wells, so you know it was bad.

I figured for sure they would have issues in that mud, but they cleared fairly well.

I drove Friday on flooded roads in heavy rain and they were impressive. I did manage to get them to hydraplane, at 45 MPH on the flooded interstate when the water was over 3 inches deep. That was only for a second. I would recommend them if you can get them at a good price.

I would still like a dedicated set of mud terrains.

brew1 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:43 pm

I recently purchased 4 BS Revos size 235/70/16 from www.RoadwayWholesaleTire.com for $500.48 shipped. So far so good.
I was on the fence with the BS Revo or the Firestone Destination, the additional siping on the Revo's sold me.

Cowcatcher · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:29 pm

I have liked my Toyo Open Country's......until I got warm wet snow on cold frozen roads. I will try them a bit longer but I need to warn you all that in our first snow they performed worse the the OEM tires. I heard my ABS ging off more in one day than in the last two years. Again, some kinds of conditions just plain suck no matter what kind of tires you are running so I will give them a little longer before thinking of a change.

Another set of Bridgestone Revos?

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