NY Times on Diesel Fuel

vtdog · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:27 am **Posts:** 640

Good article

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/busin ... tml?ref=us

kcfoxie · **Joined:** Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:27 am **Posts:** 113

The time is now for Biodiesel to really take off.

We don't have time to wait around for GTL processes, we have to move forward with what we have. That is the American way. We have viable options -- waste fats and oils from many different processing facilities could be used to power the trucks that deliver the end product.

We just need to shift our way of looking at waste, and be prepared for some upfront maintenance costs associated with the massive switch. (Lines, a pump perhaps, and likely a seal or two)

When it costs $500 to get half the tank full, you know that the cost of $1 burgers is going to go up.

This is the true beginning of the realization that the country is in a recession.

I do wish the article had mentioned the net benefit of diesel over gasoline. I can see the average reader saying "so why not switch to gasoline? It's cheaper!"

nix · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:22 pm

Quote:

“If a driver’s gear shifts take him over 8,000 r.p.m., he’s just blowing fuel out the stack,” Mr. Frieze said.

Big diesel trucks rev over 8,000 RPM? :?:

Reflex · **Joined:** Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:48 pm **Posts:** 567

While waste should certainly be recycled, I'm not certain fuel is the best use for it. As it stands now much of that waste is used for fertilizer production, which is also a petro heavy process. Removing it from that use means supplementing it with more petro, which becomes a zero sum equation(minus the extra processing required for BD manufacture).

That said I know its wasted in some areas and that should be stopped. The thread about it being put down the drain at a dairy is just amazing, that could all be recycled rather than wasted.

UFO · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:26 pm

nix wrote:

Quote:

“If a driver’s gear shifts take him over 8,000 r.p.m., he’s just blowing fuel out the stack,” Mr. Frieze said.

Big diesel trucks rev over 8,000 RPM? :?:

Not hardly. 3000 is about the limit for those engines.

Coal Cracker · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:04 pm

nix wrote:

Quote:

“If a driver’s gear shifts take him over 8,000 r.p.m., he’s just blowing fuel out the stack,” Mr. Frieze said.

Big diesel trucks rev over 8,000 RPM? :?:

Unless he's thinking of a 671 screamin Detroit?

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:09 pm

Waste Not, Want Not

kjfishman · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:33 pm

nix wrote:

Quote:

“If a driver’s gear shifts take him over 8,000 r.p.m., he’s just blowing fuel out the stack,” Mr. Frieze said.

Big diesel trucks rev over 8,000 RPM? :?:

It was a misprint they corrected it to 1800 RPM, a correction for some other numbers was printed also.

BodhiBenz1987 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:17 am

kjfishman wrote:

nix wrote:

Quote:

“If a driver’s gear shifts take him over 8,000 r.p.m., he’s just blowing fuel out the stack,” Mr. Frieze said.

Big diesel trucks rev over 8,000 RPM? :?:

It was a misprint they corrected it to 1800 RPM, a correction for some other numbers was printed also.

As a copy editor, I can tell you what probably happened. The writer probably had 1,800 rpm and the guy editing it didn't know anything about diesels and though "That doens't make sense, he MUST mean 8,000" and changed it. I shouldn't be so unfair to the copy ed, but I've seen that happen a few times. I write AND copy edit, so I see both ends. Course it coulda just been a good, old-fashioned typo.

indianrefining · **Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:26 am

vtdog wrote:

Good article

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/busin ... tml?ref=us

I wouldn't believe the New York Times if they said that the Sun was going to come up tomorrow.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:55 pm

........NY Times Retractions:P

An earlier version of this article misstated the amount of diesel and gasoline used by Americans in 2007. They used about 142 billion gallons of gasoline, not 3.395 billion gallons, and about 65 billion gallons of diesel and heating oil, not 1.55 billion gallons of diesel.

The earlier version also contained an incorrect number in a quotation from Jim Frieze of O & S Trucking. He said, "If a driver's gear shifts take him over 1,800 r.p.m., he's just blowing fuel out the stack," rather than "8,000 r.p.m."

Steve :wink:

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