Sir Sam wrote:
kcfoxie wrote:
Sad to say I'd rather take the Huyndai Santa FE CRD over the VW Touareg.
Huyndai's dealers have been better at problem resolution than the VW dealers around here.
Plus I dislike the design path VW has taken with the SUVs.
Agreed. VW quality just doesn't compare to Jeep and VM. The hyundai with the VM would be a far better quality vehicle than a VW TDI.
Eh, now I don't know about all that. This car had a clutch failure (poor choice on VWoA's part, they will and are failing with stock setups and no chips around 50k miles and the clutch is being replaced under warranty...now...), and an airbag that was faulty. One I replaced with an upgraded part to handle the torque output I wanted (my car is chipped), the other was a dealer repair (it took 4 attemps).
I am more upset with the dealerships. I have been led to believe that the Hyundai dealers take care of their customers akin to Honda and Toyota dealers. I have never owned one, but those I know who do own them LOVE their dealerships and only go in for scheduled maintenances. That sounds rite nice compared to my VW dealer experiences.
I can't say that that the Jeep has been better quality than the VW. Actually, we only keep it for the VM engine. It took 4 or 5 trips to get the right satellite module installed. Yes, a drop in electronics module. Bad dealer, perhaps, but they're owned by the largest Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler dealer in the state and they refused to let us take the Jeep to another dealer after the 3rd failed attempt that blew out most of the fuses in the fuse panel.
By far, this Jeep has 45k miles my VW has 60k miles. The jeep is a full year+ older, and it's had a TC replaced, AC unit repaired, and a satellite radio module replaced three times now. The VW had a clutch failure (just as bad but cheaper to fix than the TC), and an airbag (actually cheaper than the cost of the Satellite radio module). At best I'd say they're par for par.
My last VW (02 gas Bug) went 110k miles, no CEL until 60k when the coolant temp sensor died on it (common fault), and no other major problems except my fat butt broke a seat bracket (reason I traded up for the TDI).
Uffe wrote:
Sir Sam wrote:
kcfoxie wrote:
Sad to say I'd rather take the Huyndai Santa FE CRD over the VW Touareg.
Huyndai's dealers have been better at problem resolution than the VW dealers around here.
Plus I dislike the design path VW has taken with the SUVs.
Agreed. VW quality just doesn't compare to Jeep and VM. The hyundai with the VM would be a far better quality vehicle than a VW TDI.
Was that sarcasm by chance?

Yeah... I'm with you. I think that VW and Chrysler are on-par with their quality of both production and service. VW does far better engineering (Chrysler lost all hope with me on the pathetic fuel filter and lack of a lift pump, this is the same company with access to Cummins parts for God's sake), but they rank just as poorly on dealer service and part failures (like window regulators, tho I have never actually had that issue before with a VW, had it lots of times with FOrd and Mercedes-Benz).
I would love a change. Huyndai's are cheaper than VWs, which is why I'd be willing to put up with VW-like service at a Hyundai-price.