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darn you guys and all these pics of lifted libertys. i cannot wait to do mine

mock me all day by posting pics of lifted jeeps in all your posts, why don't you :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D


Do you want to buy a set of slightly used rear ome coils? :lol:


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Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


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i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


That's what she said :shock:


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icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.

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icarl wrote:
Inc wrote:
icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.


The question is does anyone have any experience with the 4" lift springs. whats their load fo resistance (ie the HD frankenlift is 400lbs) will the 4" lift springs from Als sag after a little bit of time etc etc


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Drassis wrote:
Sport wrote:
icarl wrote:
Inc wrote:
icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.


The question is does anyone have any experience with the 4" lift springs. whats their load fo resistance (ie the HD frankenlift is 400lbs) will the 4" lift springs from Als sag after a little bit of time etc etc


I only knew of one guy who got the 4" lift, but I think he quit being a member.

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Drassis wrote:
Sport wrote:
icarl wrote:
Inc wrote:
icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.


The question is does anyone have any experience with the 4" lift springs. whats their load fo resistance (ie the HD frankenlift is 400lbs) will the 4" lift springs from Als sag after a little bit of time etc etc


I only knew of one guy who got the 4" lift, but I think he quit being a member.


I emailed marlin and he says the spring rate is only 200 and I think that is comparable to stock. he also said the initially you get 4 to 4.5" over stock but then I am sure these will settle atleast an inch and then over time more then that. haha. I wonder why only 200?

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Sport wrote:
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Drassis wrote:
Sport wrote:
icarl wrote:
Inc wrote:
icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.


The question is does anyone have any experience with the 4" lift springs. whats their load fo resistance (ie the HD frankenlift is 400lbs) will the 4" lift springs from Als sag after a little bit of time etc etc


I only knew of one guy who got the 4" lift, but I think he quit being a member.


I emailed marlin and he says the spring rate is only 200 and I think that is comparable to stock. he also said the initially you get 4 to 4.5" over stock but then I am sure these will settle atleast an inch and then over time more then that. haha. I wonder why only 200?




200lbs is very low My stock springs with a spacer lift are shot due to all the weight I haul around, thats why I am upgrading my springs to the HD frankies they take twice the load. I dont think I would trust a spring thats 4" longer but only carries 200lbs test, it will probably settle 2" in a year, lol hell my stock springs settled an 1" after having my jeep for 2 years and their basically the same load.


As to the original poster I dont think the 4" lift spring will settle your issues if their only rated at 200lbs. I think you are better finding out if you have the HD coils in the rear and replacing those if their not. Also check your springs for stress fractures if they are the HD coils and they have stress fractures that would be the reason they sag so much. But sounds like you might only have the light or Med coils and if thats the case a set of HD coils is cheap 150$ since you already have the rest the hardware, you can just slip those in.


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Sport wrote:
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Sport wrote:
icarl wrote:
Inc wrote:
icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.


The question is does anyone have any experience with the 4" lift springs. whats their load fo resistance (ie the HD frankenlift is 400lbs) will the 4" lift springs from Als sag after a little bit of time etc etc


I only knew of one guy who got the 4" lift, but I think he quit being a member.


I emailed marlin and he says the spring rate is only 200 and I think that is comparable to stock. he also said the initially you get 4 to 4.5" over stock but then I am sure these will settle atleast an inch and then over time more then that. haha. I wonder why only 200?




200lbs is very low My stock springs with a spacer lift are shot due to all the weight I haul around, thats why I am upgrading my springs to the HD frankies they take twice the load. I dont think I would trust a spring thats 4" longer but only carries 200lbs test, it will probably settle 2" in a year, lol hell my stock springs settled an 1" after having my jeep for 2 years and their basically the same load.


As to the original poster I dont think the 4" lift spring will settle your issues if their only rated at 200lbs. I think you are better finding out if you have the HD coils in the rear and replacing those if their not. Also check your springs for stress fractures if they are the HD coils and they have stress fractures that would be the reason they sag so much. But sounds like you might only have the light or Med coils and if thats the case a set of HD coils is cheap 150$ since you already have the rest the hardware, you can just slip those in.
The OME HD rear coils are nowhere close to 400lbs,it's the front HD coils that are 400lbs.You do not need as heavy of a coil in the rear,unless you have a 3/4 or 1ton pickup,since most of the weight is up front.If you put 400lbs rear coils on you would be bouncing down the road from every grain of sand that your tires rolled over.


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tjkj2002 wrote:
Drassis wrote:
Sport wrote:
Sport wrote:
Drassis wrote:
Sport wrote:
icarl wrote:
Inc wrote:
icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.


The question is does anyone have any experience with the 4" lift springs. whats their load fo resistance (ie the HD frankenlift is 400lbs) will the 4" lift springs from Als sag after a little bit of time etc etc


I only knew of one guy who got the 4" lift, but I think he quit being a member.


I emailed marlin and he says the spring rate is only 200 and I think that is comparable to stock. he also said the initially you get 4 to 4.5" over stock but then I am sure these will settle atleast an inch and then over time more then that. haha. I wonder why only 200?




200lbs is very low My stock springs with a spacer lift are shot due to all the weight I haul around, thats why I am upgrading my springs to the HD frankies they take twice the load. I dont think I would trust a spring thats 4" longer but only carries 200lbs test, it will probably settle 2" in a year, lol hell my stock springs settled an 1" after having my jeep for 2 years and their basically the same load.


As to the original poster I dont think the 4" lift spring will settle your issues if their only rated at 200lbs. I think you are better finding out if you have the HD coils in the rear and replacing those if their not. Also check your springs for stress fractures if they are the HD coils and they have stress fractures that would be the reason they sag so much. But sounds like you might only have the light or Med coils and if thats the case a set of HD coils is cheap 150$ since you already have the rest the hardware, you can just slip those in.
The OME HD rear coils are nowhere close to 400lbs,it's the front HD coils that are 400lbs.You do not need as heavy of a coil in the rear,unless you have a 3/4 or 1ton pickup,since most of the weight is up front.If you put 400lbs rear coils on you would be bouncing down the road from every grain of sand that your tires rolled over.


Your right I was looking at the spring rates for the front, I actually cannot find the rating for the rear 948, I jsut glanced earlier but was looking at the 927 which rates 400lbs


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After removing all my gear (recovery gear for winch, hi-lift, tools) out of the back my rear end went up almost an inch (21.5" now from center to flare). i figure it was about 100 ibs or less of stuff back there. Should this be expected with the ome 948's or would it be reasonable to assume they are lighter weight springs because i am not sure if i trust the ome 948's enough to order them again and have the same issue.


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After removing all my gear (recovery gear for winch, hi-lift, tools) out of the back my rear end went up almost an inch (21.5" now from center to flare). i figure it was about 100 ibs or less of stuff back there. Should this be expected with the ome 948's or would it be reasonable to assume they are lighter weight springs because i am not sure if i trust the ome 948's enough to order them again and have the same issue.

When I added my 200 lbs of rear bumper stuff on, mine sagged 0"s.

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After removing all my gear (recovery gear for winch, hi-lift, tools) out of the back my rear end went up almost an inch (21.5" now from center to flare). i figure it was about 100 ibs or less of stuff back there. Should this be expected with the ome 948's or would it be reasonable to assume they are lighter weight springs because i am not sure if i trust the ome 948's enough to order them again and have the same issue.

When I added my 200 lbs of rear bumper stuff on, mine sagged 0"s.
After adding 500lbs+ to my rear end I lost about 1/2",added upper isolators to gain it back.I do not have OME coils but non-softride SkyJacker coils.


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icarl wrote:
Well, it's been a year since i bought it so it's unlikely i would get an exchange.

I'd call just to see what they say at east before I spent any more money. Couldn't hurt. Send them a link to this thread.


I sent them an email but haven't received a response yet. I would be surprised if there is any kind of warranty a year after but they may offer me a discount on a new set. who knows? If that doesn't pan out, i am still curious to see how the 4" from jba would change things back there.


I am debating on putting JBA 4" coils in the rear myself. I figured if OME HD with 2 upper iso gives you about 4" of lift (from what I have read) well then why not go with just a full coil and do away with the iso.


The question is does anyone have any experience with the 4" lift springs. whats their load fo resistance (ie the HD frankenlift is 400lbs) will the 4" lift springs from Als sag after a little bit of time etc etc


I only knew of one guy who got the 4" lift, but I think he quit being a member.


I emailed marlin and he says the spring rate is only 200 and I think that is comparable to stock. he also said the initially you get 4 to 4.5" over stock but then I am sure these will settle atleast an inch and then over time more then that. haha. I wonder why only 200?


sorry guys, i just wanted to continue the quote tree

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Would like to know what the spring rate is on the HD rears, I need new springs and can't decide what to do.

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I had 350 lbs of sand in the back and it didn't sag much... at most 3/4 of an inch.

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Would like to know what the spring rate is on the HD rears, I need new springs and can't decide what to do.


I'm currently searching online for that answer. So far i have learned that the rear ome HD coils for a landrover discovery series are rated at 220 ibs. Not sure if that helps or not.


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So online it says the ome948 is a 1.5" lift. But many say they get almost 4" of lift from them. Does that mean it is 1.5" longer than stock and then provides an additional 1.5-2.5" of lift from the coils being stiffer than stock?


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I don't remember how much longer my HD's were than stock but yes. With an OME lift, part of lift is from longer coil, the rest is simply because spring doesn't squat as much under the weight of the jeep ( Higher spring rate)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:48 am 
Ok, i thought i would post this for the benefit of y'all. I contacted arb and asked what the spring rate of the ome948's were and this was the response i got.

"Carl,



The OME948 coil has a spring rate of 200 lb/in and a free height of 340mm. I’m not sure what other info you might need on the coil but if you have any other specific questions about them let me know.



Best Regards,



Nils Bull

ARB Tech

nilsb@arbusa.com "


Now, i just need to confirm if the jba 4" springs are 200ibs. If so i may be going jba :wink:


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