A-arm failure in Moab...

durangotang · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:06 pm

I saw this on a post over on Expedition Portal... a fellow KJ owner suffered this breakage on the Top of the World Trail. Fortunately, they had the parts for a trail repair...

Are these older Al's arms? Looks to me like they broke at the weld :shock:

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:34 pm

Yes older ones
also an older version of the Frankenlift time to upgrade anyways :wink:

thats why I always have a spare one with me when out on trails :wink:

even though I have the 4.5s

STINGN · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:37 pm

if that were to happen to me, i would have cried

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:43 pm

That'll be them. And yes, the weld breaks.

jg45 · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:41 pm

That was me that broke in Moab. These were the old Gen 3 arms I got from Al when LOST had a group by back in 2006. I was really worried about these during the trip after reading about the breaking issue and took an OEM one along just in case. I was very glad I did, as we did not see another vehicle on the trail that entire day. If it had broken on the White Rim and I did not have a spare, I would really have been ticked off. Luckily, I had heard about the inferior welding/design on these and took a back up along.

I just installed the Gen 4.5 arms yesterday only to find that they are rubbing my tires all the time. That was, and is, a very big disappointment to me as I had read how these new 4.5s are supposed to be the cats meow. Now I have a Jeep in the garage that cannot be driven until I can get a set of tires that have less section width, or change the backspacing on the wheels. In either case, it is going to cost more money for something that is supposed to fix tire rub and alignment issues.

The Frankenlift is 2 years old. I had AllJs make it like the old style after having two of their custom poly spacers fail within a few months of install. All Js is a great organization and takes good care of their customers. The issue with their custom spacers was limited to a single bad batch that I just happened to get.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:53 pm

Do you have any pictures of how close the gen 3 arms were or maybe the stock arms? They must of been crazy close.

I guess no one has had 255 tires on stock rims with the gen 4.5 arms?? Very odd.

durangotang · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:01 am

jg45 wrote:

That was me that broke in Moab. These were the old Gen 3 arms I got from Al when LOST had a group by back in 2006. I was really worried about these during the trip after reading about the breaking issue and took an OEM one along just in case. I was very glad I did, as we did not see another vehicle on the trail that entire day. If it had broken on the White Rim and I did not have a spare, I would really have been ticked off. Luckily, I had heard about the inferior welding/design on these and took a back up along.

I just installed the Gen 4.5 arms yesterday only to find that they are rubbing my tires all the time. That was, and is, a very big disappointment to me as I had read how these new 4.5s are supposed to be the cats meow. Now I have a Jeep in the garage that cannot be driven until I can get a set of tires that have less section width, or change the backspacing on the wheels. In either case, it is going to cost more money for something that is supposed to fix tire rub and alignment issues.

The Frankenlift is 2 years old. I had AllJs make it like the old style after having two of their custom poly spacers fail within a few months of install. All Js is a great organization and takes good care of their customers. The issue with their custom spacers was limited to a single bad batch that I just happened to get.

Oh

... you are on here... don't know how I missed that

Nicely done on the field repair *thumbs up*

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:28 am

jg45 wrote:

I just installed the Gen 4.5 arms yesterday only to find that they are rubbing my tires all the time. That was, and is, a very big disappointment to me as I had read how these new 4.5s are supposed to be the cats meow. Now I have a Jeep in the garage that cannot be driven until I can get a set of tires that have less section width, or change the backspacing on the wheels. In either case, it is going to cost more money for something that is supposed to fix tire rub and alignment issues.

I would recommend buying some cheap cragar soft 8's.......

KJ04 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:53 pm

Might need to have the Camber reset with the new arms.

jg45 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:03 pm

KJ04 wrote:

Might need to have the Camber reset with the new arms.

Plan to get an alignment as soon as I can drive it. However, since the camber is adjusted by moving the lower control arm in and out, the pivot point for camber would be the ball joint on the upper control arm. Therefore, adjusting the camber would have little to no effect on the rub from the ball joint mount to the sidewall of the tire. I wish it would be that simple, I'd get out there and adjust the camber enough to drive myself.

KJ04 · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:11 pm

Might need to have the Camber reset with the new arms.

M&P40 · **Posted:** Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:57 pm

i had this happen to me at 4:30 am on a back highway in central texas. i had no cell service but thank god my girlfriend's phone (which normally had no service) actually did so i was able to call for a ride but it is crappy that happens, have had the new 4.5s on with no rubbing but the alignment never seems to be right even after 3 tries

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