So, I've decided on a diesel Libby.

thunderbear · **Posted:** Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:04 pm

.. but there seem to be a lot more available in Canada. Anyone ever bought one from across the border?

I live in Alaska, so driving the Al-Can back from BC or AB is probably cheaper than shipping. I've already shipped one Jeep up here, and it's ... painful.

Secondly, how do your KJs perform in winter? My TJs taken a pretty significant mileage hit. Not that the lift and 33s are particularly helpful. :shock:

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:45 pm

Most Canadians are great people, but the Government operates on the following motto, "Personal Empowerment through the Pursuit of Chicken Crap".
I bought a Ryobi 1/2" drill in Ontario for a Job (contractor would not loan a drill to drill the holes) I was working on and shipped it back to the U.S. so I did not have to pay for over weight luggage. You would not believe what I had to go through, not only do all the "Ts" have to be crossed, but done to their satisfaction. Better talk to an Alaska Native who has done it before and has the connections or just find one in the Lower 48 and come get it, Alaska Air gives great service.

Mine Starts at -14F with out plugging in over night as long as my battery is topped off. Up where you are don't most of the Hotels have plug ins? You will take a hit in the Winter on MPG but up there every thing does.
Good Luck

Rich · **Posted:** Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:51 pm

You can import from Canada IF the Jeep was built for the Canadian market. You CAN NOT import the Jeep to the US if it was built for another market (Euro, Asian) and imported to Canada.

do some googlefu on importing cars to the US.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:22 pm

This one is in spokane washington(at least from the area code)

Thats almost as good as it gets for having a short drive way back up to AK.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=49914

thunderbear · **Posted:** Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:34 am

warp2diesel wrote:

Most Canadians are great people, but the Government operates on the following motto, "Personal Empowerment through the Pursuit of Chicken Crap".
I bought a Ryobi 1/2" drill in Ontario for a Job (contractor would not loan a drill to drill the holes) I was working on and shipped it back to the U.S. so I did not have to pay for over weight luggage. You would not believe what I had to go through, not only do all the "Ts" have to be crossed, but done to their satisfaction. Better talk to an Alaska Native who has done it before and has the connections or just find one in the Lower 48 and come get it, Alaska Air gives great service.

Mine Starts at -14F with out plugging in over night as long as my battery is topped off. Up where you are don't most of the Hotels have plug ins? You will take a hit in the Winter on MPG but up there every thing does.
Good Luck

Sounds painful, and all that for a Ryobi? Ouch.

My Optima is sluggish at times, but the TJ doesn't get fired up but every three or four days or so, so I understand that. Most everywhere has a plug in, so that is good.

Rich, I did notice the odd restrictions, and I'm looking for Canadian KJ CRDs. There seem to be a lot more of them than there are US CRDs, albeit a bit more expensive, even with the CAD -> USD conversion.

Sam, as odd as it sounds with my whopping two posts, I'd rather buy either from a dealer or a well known poster here on LOST.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:46 am

thunderbear wrote:

warp2diesel wrote:

Most Canadians are great people, but the Government operates on the following motto, "Personal Empowerment through the Pursuit of Chicken Crap".
I bought a Ryobi 1/2" drill in Ontario for a Job (contractor would not loan a drill to drill the holes) I was working on and shipped it back to the U.S. so I did not have to pay for over weight luggage. You would not believe what I had to go through, not only do all the "Ts" have to be crossed, but done to their satisfaction. Better talk to an Alaska Native who has done it before and has the connections or just find one in the Lower 48 and come get it, Alaska Air gives great service.

Mine Starts at -14F with out plugging in over night as long as my battery is topped off. Up where you are don't most of the Hotels have plug ins? You will take a hit in the Winter on MPG but up there every thing does.
Good Luck

Sounds painful, and all that for a Ryobi? Ouch.

My Optima is sluggish at times, but the TJ doesn't get fired up but every three or four days or so, so I understand that. Most everywhere has a plug in, so that is good.

Rich, I did notice the odd restrictions, and I'm looking for Canadian KJ CRDs. There seem to be a lot more of them than there are US CRDs, albeit a bit more expensive, even with the CAD -> USD conversion.

Sam, as odd as it sounds with my whopping two posts, I'd rather buy either from a dealer or a well known poster here on LOST.

How quickly are you looking to buy a vehicle? How much are you willing to pay? Do you have any aversion to saving money by buying a previously wrecked and repaired(by a well known poster here on LOST) 2005 crd?

linewarbr · **Posted:** Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:55 pm

Here's one in the For Sale section that is already hooked up and ready for Alaskan challenges (within reason). It's across the continent in New Hampshire, though, so it would be a long trip back.

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=49717

WolverineFW · **Posted:** Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:34 am

You should look around Canada for US import CRD's for sale here. There are a few of them and they might give you less hassle. Also tend to be priced cheaper.

thunderbear · **Posted:** Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:10 am

Sir Sam wrote:

How quickly are you looking to buy a vehicle? How much are you willing to pay? Do you have any aversion to saving money by buying a previously wrecked and repaired(by a well known poster here on LOST) 2005 crd?

Well, soon, but not tomorrow, if that helps you. I'm still getting things settled up here in AK. I would probably not have a problem with that, so long as the repairs were quality. I'm not trying to buy someone else's project though, a few mods is fine, all out built trail rig, no thanks. Removes all of the fun of building it up yourself, you know?

I had a lot of fun building this:

And I would like the same experience with a KJ, albeit with more expensive parts and a smaller aftermarket. :lol:

We TJ owners are lucky.

WolverineFW wrote:

You should look around Canada for US import CRD's for sale here. There are a few of them and they might give you less hassle. Also tend to be priced cheaper.

Well, that's interesting. Never even considered that. Where does one find US spec'd CRDs in Canada?

WolverineFW · **Posted:** Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:26 pm

thunderbear wrote:

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WolverineFW wrote:

You should look around Canada for US import CRD's for sale here. There are a few of them and they might give you less hassle. Also tend to be priced cheaper.

Well, that's interesting. Never even considered that. Where does one find US spec'd CRDs in Canada?

Normally I would say just look at craigslist or buyandsell.com for British Columbia, but I just checked and there don't appear to be any US Imports for sale right now, only Canadian spec'd CRD's. About a year to a year and a half ago, half the CRD's for sale around here were US Imports because our dollar was at par or higher with the US dollar.

mikey1273 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:22 pm

That IS A NICE TJ :JEEPIN:

KJ 119 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:58 pm

mikey1273 wrote:

That IS A NICE TJ :JEEPIN:

X2

Good luck finding your CRD! :rockon:

linewarbr · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:54 am

This one might be perfect for you, it's in Washington state. Looks like it has the necessary engine and tranny mods without any trail mods, so she may be virgin as far as wheeling goes. . .

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=49914&p=554767#p554767

Rich · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:17 pm

thunderbear wrote:

Rich, I did notice the odd restrictions, and I'm looking for Canadian KJ CRDs. There seem to be a lot more of them than there are US CRDs, albeit a bit more expensive, even with the CAD -> USD conversion.

This is the reason behind the "odd" restriction.

CDN spec vehicles are very similar in emission, impact, and other standards that are required by the US government. Because of these requirements, the US allows CDN vehicles to be bought and imported by US citizens for use on US streets. They are 100% legal and registrable on the roads here. This open import is for vehicles built and spec'd for the CDN market ONLY.

To import a car from a country other than Canada, into the US, the vehicle must meet strict requirements and be tested by EPA, NTSB, and DOT to receive a green flag. These requirements are non-existent for any vehicle 25yrs or older. This means you can import ANYTHING my85 or older into the US without restriction.

To import a car from a country other than the US , into Canada, the vehicle must meet the same strict requirements listed above OR be 15yrs or older. This means you can import anything, without restriction, that is a my95 or older.

The rule of CDN market ONLY is to prevent me from buying a Lancer Evo III (or next year an Evo IV) importing it to Canada, registering it there... then importing it to the US under the CDM=USDM rules.

fastRob · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:33 am

Marine,
Unless you are darn good with a wrench and have a heated garage available to you I would pass on a CRD for Alaska. Unless it was a second car and it was a very good deal.
The cold and diesel are at odds with one another. Parts can get difficult at times too.
Here in Maine, I still have the original battery, I plug in and wait for the glow plugs to work, have Alaska blanket and still wish I had more heat in the engine compartment. A coast down a steep hill and my temp gauge goes down. Fuel mileage goes way down, expensive additives get added. Gassers (Patooie!) have their place.
We have 2 children in the Marines, they might get the diesel to use in TX or CA, a gasser 4wd for AK although I hear 2wd is big there too. My daughter graduates from Parris Island Feb 26, getting excited to make the trip.
I want a JK diesel unlimited. Not sure if we will ever be able to buy one.
Everything is illegal here.
Semper Fi.

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:03 am

Rich wrote:

thunderbear wrote:

Rich, I did notice the odd restrictions, and I'm looking for Canadian KJ CRDs. There seem to be a lot more of them than there are US CRDs, albeit a bit more expensive, even with the CAD -> USD conversion.

This is the reason behind the "odd" restriction.

CDN spec vehicles are very similar in emission, impact, and other standards that are required by the US government. Because of these requirements, the US allows CDN vehicles to be bought and imported by US citizens for use on US streets. They are 100% legal and registrable on the roads here. This open import is for vehicles built and spec'd for the CDN market ONLY.

To import a car from a country other than Canada, into the US, the vehicle must meet strict requirements and be tested by EPA, NTSB, and DOT to receive a green flag. These requirements are non-existent for any vehicle 25yrs or older. This means you can import ANYTHING my85 or older into the US without restriction.

To import a car from a country other than the US , into Canada, the vehicle must meet the same strict requirements listed above OR be 15yrs or older. This means you can import anything, without restriction, that is a my95 or older.

The rule of CDN market ONLY is to prevent me from buying a Lancer Evo III (or next year an Evo IV) importing it to Canada, registering it there... then importing it to the US under the CDM=USDM rules.

Is there documentation of this anywhere? If this is true... Then I might ACTUALLY be able to get either a diesel Smart FourTwo... Or the Mini Cooper D.

Yea, I'm looking at a car that I can put in the back of the CRD as a spare, but when talking about fuel mileage and I'm only driving my own arse around each day... Why do I need 4500 lbs of lead under me?

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:39 am

geordi wrote:

Rich wrote:

thunderbear wrote:

Rich, I did notice the odd restrictions, and I'm looking for Canadian KJ CRDs. There seem to be a lot more of them than there are US CRDs, albeit a bit more expensive, even with the CAD -> USD conversion.

This is the reason behind the "odd" restriction.

CDN spec vehicles are very similar in emission, impact, and other standards that are required by the US government. Because of these requirements, the US allows CDN vehicles to be bought and imported by US citizens for use on US streets. They are 100% legal and registrable on the roads here. This open import is for vehicles built and spec'd for the CDN market ONLY.

To import a car from a country other than Canada, into the US, the vehicle must meet strict requirements and be tested by EPA, NTSB, and DOT to receive a green flag. These requirements are non-existent for any vehicle 25yrs or older. This means you can import ANYTHING my85 or older into the US without restriction.

To import a car from a country other than the US , into Canada, the vehicle must meet the same strict requirements listed above OR be 15yrs or older. This means you can import anything, without restriction, that is a my95 or older.

The rule of CDN market ONLY is to prevent me from buying a Lancer Evo III (or next year an Evo IV) importing it to Canada, registering it there... then importing it to the US under the CDM=USDM rules.

Is there documentation of this anywhere? If this is true... Then I might ACTUALLY be able to get either a diesel Smart FourTwo... Or the Mini Cooper D.

Yea, I'm looking at a car that I can put in the back of the CRD as a spare, but when talking about fuel mileage and I'm only driving my own arse around each day... Why do I need 4500 lbs of lead under me?

Yes thats all true of the above, but even then there are some cars that you still will have a hard time importing.

Rich · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:35 pm

geordi wrote:

Is there documentation of this anywhere? If this is true... Then I might ACTUALLY be able to get either a diesel Smart FourTwo... Or the Mini Cooper D.

Yea, I'm looking at a car that I can put in the back of the CRD as a spare, but when talking about fuel mileage and I'm only driving my own arse around each day... Why do I need 4500 lbs of lead under me?

Don't feel bad, my wife and I test drove a Toyota Yaris last night for the same reason. Since we bought the CRD her 385awhp WRX was driven 60mi a week for work, and parked all weekend. Since Sunday... it may be junked. (effing drunk drivers)

As for importation information, see.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/imp ... 192007.htm

I did a TON of research before we moved back from Japan. I REALLY wanted to bring this back to the US with me...

geordi · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:19 pm

That is a nice looking ride, too bad it won't ever see this side of the Pacific.

I'm just frustrated by the fact that MORE diesel vehicles are offered in Canada than here... BUT if they are able to be directly imported without going through all the BS of trying to bring in a European ride... Then that gives me some hope.

thunderbear · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:13 pm

mikey1273 wrote:

That IS A NICE TJ :JEEPIN:

KJ 119 wrote:

X2

Thanks, it's been a fun project, all work done by me. My favorite mod, other than the winch, of course, is this:

17"x30" massive sunroof. Probably the most time consuming install outside of the lift. Will never own a vehicle without a skylight, again. When you have views like this every day...

...you want to see all of it. It is a bit of work to keep clean, though.

fastRob wrote:

Marine,
Unless you are darn good with a wrench and have a heated garage available to you I would pass on a CRD for Alaska. Unless it was a second car and it was a very good deal.
The cold and diesel are at odds with one another. Parts can get difficult at times too.
Here in Maine, I still have the original battery, I plug in and wait for the glow plugs to work, have Alaska blanket and still wish I had more heat in the engine compartment. A coast down a steep hill and my temp gauge goes down. Fuel mileage goes way down, expensive additives get added. Gassers (Patooie!) have their place.
We have 2 children in the Marines, they might get the diesel to use in TX or CA, a gasser 4wd for AK although I hear 2wd is big there too. My daughter graduates from Parris Island Feb 26, getting excited to make the trip.
I want a JK diesel unlimited. Not sure if we will ever be able to buy one.
Everything is illegal here.
Semper Fi.

I've never been accused of modesty, but that tends to come with being a Jarhead anyway, :lol:

I'm passing fair with a wrench. I installed the lift, wired and mounted the winch, cut and installed the sunroof, painted interior and exterior of the hardtop, wired and installed the moose lights, completely removed and rewired the stereo, speakers, added subs and amp, added swaybar disconnects, swapped a radiator, belts, hoses, water pump, starter and just about all the other skills Jeep owners learn in the general process that is being an off roader. I'm fairly confident in my abilities, and have a killer tech a phone call away. (who can conveniently be bribed with fishing trips up here

)

The heated garage will be a reality soon, but we haven't bought a house up here yet. That is one of my criteria. I'll install a couple of block heating elements in the meantime.

Congratulations on the newly minted Marine. I enjoy the dubious distinction of being the only Marine in my family. :lol:

So, I've decided on a diesel Libby.

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