Common guys, let's keep this unlocked!

This is not as someone stated a 'mine's bigger then yours' contest.

This is a discussion in which we try to compare the pro's and con's of Gas vs Diesel in a KJ

So I don't care if you have a TDI or a CTD or a whatever. Furthermore, this thread made us come out of the CRD section...

Talking about 'us':

Seems like most owners of CRD KJ's are real enthousiasts and 'dig' into the mechanics of our little rig, coming up with mods and whatnot. There are people here who really know what they are talking about. Maybe that is what makes 'us' different.

no, not 'cause you have to be a mechanic to keep it running....(thought I'd say that before someone else does )

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Cherokee 2,5 CRD: sold - Wrangler TJ 2.5: gone - Touareg V10 TDI: new toy

Solo Liberty en Español: Jeepliberty.es

I'm sick of the trolls and fight starters on this board. Why does it matter who thinks they have the best vehicle? This is a jeep board where people help each other with problems, got together for lifts and rides, and talk about jeeps. I don't need some a-hole telling me whether I made the right purchase unless I ask for it. The thread was directed negatively at crd drivers and immediately certain members who never have anything useful or productive to say, essentially called crd owners liars and idiots for buying and working on our vehicles. I don't get it. The internet is filled with forums where drivers take vehicles that run fine, and begin modding them for fun. I belong to several and none are as confrontational as this one. Sure, sure I know there are boards that are confrontational and beyond ie pirate, but I think everyone knows that going in. This board used to be different. "Call to arms", see a reference to battle. Why does this board require calling to arms? Why start a fight just to make people mad, too much idle time I guess. Maybe they need a hobby.

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2005 CRD 75,000 miles
Various mods, I just fix it till it breaks.
The rest of the fleet:
85 F250 6.9 Diesel 250,000 miles
82 Mercedes 240D 330,000 miles
81 Mercedes 240D 285,000 miles
My kids think gas is only for lawn equipment!

Jdorris, I don't find this thread to be in such bad shape. There have been way worse.



Point taken. Still....

I don't think it would hurt if the US would 'change' a little. Somehow gasoline powered V8's grew into your DNA or something, monstrously big engines using enormous amounts of fuel. (with very little output, but that is a European point of view and therefore maybe not relevant)

Now don't tell me that is just the way it is. And that no one can change that. (No matter where they are)

The KJ CRD was a good start imo.

PS: I know...there are V8's with a 1000bhp. But you don't find those in an everyday Ford now do you...

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Cherokee 2,5 CRD: sold - Wrangler TJ 2.5: gone - Touareg V10 TDI: new toy

Solo Liberty en Español: Jeepliberty.es

OldSkull,

I devised my own Provent using the following thread published by Squeeto:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45359&hilit=homemade+provent

Apart from minor differences, it's basically the same approach. Now, I just open the valve at the bottom of the bottle, fill the cup and bottom it up in honor of the CRD! Actually, I just recycle it with the old engine oil

InCommando,

Man, you really don't let go easly! I salute your tenacity but find you to be a tad bit vindictive & confrontational in your approach. As many other have pointed out, we are still talking about a Jeep, right? So, we are all brothers-in-arms, aren't we?

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RIP 10/31/2012
Green Metallic 2006 CRD Limited
GDE Hot tune ~ Pre-F37 TCM ~ Transgo shift kit ~ MagnaFlow ~ Homemade Provent ~ OME 2" lift & Airlift ~ Samco ~ Euro TC ~ Lift pump ~ Nylon fan blade & Hayden clutch ~ Etc!

Let's stop fighting and make a logical list.

CRD
Pros: Blows smoke
Good "Fuel" mileage when towing
Good at towing
Power

Cons: Automatic tranny
Timing Belt

Gasser
Pros: Manuals available
Availabilty of fuel at every gas station
Perfect for towing small loads whenever needed, not every day.
Timing chains

Cons: Gas mileage (in certain scenarios, I haven't had a tank below 18.5 yet)

Feel free to add to the list!

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2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs

Don't mind me adding some cons now do you?

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Cherokee 2,5 CRD: sold - Wrangler TJ 2.5: gone - Touareg V10 TDI: new toy

Solo Liberty en Español: Jeepliberty.es

It's all yours. That's why I started it.

Also nice to learn what to look for in my newly purchased gasser.

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2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs

Perfect!

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2005 Black KJ Sport CRD,
GDE Full Torque ECO TUNE, GDE Transmission ECO Tune,
Samco British Racing Green Hoses
Build Date 1/05
200k miles.
Original Owner

I agree with all the pionts made about the crd..... pros and cons. bottom line for me is I have had mine nearly a year. I like to tinker some I can do some mechanical work but I am in no way a diesel mechanic. I have had no issues yet with mine that required a trip to a stealer or diesel mechanic. I have few mod... Provent and ORM done. I runs great!!!! I do my own oil and filter changes. I would have never bought this Jeep if not for the MPG it can get. so far it has cost me no more... in fact maybe less than the 4 banner gas outback I traded in. If you are happy with your gasser good for you... I'm happy with my diesel

Lets stop this fight and get back to talking Jeeps. Gas or diesel they are all Jeeps

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2006 Liberty CRD Limited Deep Beryl Green Metallic Clear coat, Fumoto valve, MH ProVent (removed), GDE Eco tune,
OME 790/948 springs, OME struts, OME N132L shocks, Jeepin by Al A-arms, Hercules Terra Trac AT2 245/75R16
Weeks Stage 1 EGR delete, 5 volt steel glow plugs