Revival! Welcome by the way!

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03 Sport - SEMI DIGGERIZED, Surco Rack with Daylighters, OME Lift, Runcool Hood Louvers, RL Front Bumper and Super Skink Sliders, 31" BFG AT/KO on Soft 8s, Skid Row/Mopar Skids, 8k Smittybilt Winch with Synthetic Line.
MY BUILD: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=59628

Your KJ has struts installed??? Well... there's your problem right there.

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2006 CRD http://www.UtahPowderCoatings.com/ http://www.gorecon.com/ I'm kind of a big deal.
RL rear bumper, ARB front bumper, Mile Marker winch, Power Tank, Skids by Mopar & Skid Row, RL Super Skink Sliders, 235/85R16 MTR, Air Flow Snorkel, DTT, 4.10 gears, Frankenlift II, Katskin leather, JL Audio stereo, Rosen video.

Does this mean I need to sell my OTT lift? Is there a problem installing it on a CRD. It's new ,still in the box.

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2005 Limited CRD
GDE Hot tune, Airtex Lift pump, Filter head,ProVent, 255/65/17 Kumho KL78
other diesels :
2001 Dodge 4x4 24 valve 510/1050 @rear wheels
1984 Mitsubishi Turbo Diesel_gone but not forgotten

Do not install an OTT lift without an extended bumpstop.

it's been known to kill front shocks in a weekend - actually it only takes a couple of full cycles of the suspension - because you're topping out on the shock internals - they're not made for it.




http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-TeraFlex_Bump_Stop-653.aspx

http://www.trailquest.com/teraflex/KJ/suspension.shtml#bumpstop

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2005 CRD
stuff
Skeptic quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur

And even then on 6 year old springs and shocks you'll be swapping to full spring lift soon enough
I use OTT spacers as door stops, best thing for them

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

You need to throw that thing as far away as possible. The Frankenlift II for the CRD is the final word in CRD lifts and the fine folks over at All J Products are responsible for this fine community... their stuff is less self-destructy than other offerings as well.

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2006 CRD http://www.UtahPowderCoatings.com/ http://www.gorecon.com/ I'm kind of a big deal.
RL rear bumper, ARB front bumper, Mile Marker winch, Power Tank, Skids by Mopar & Skid Row, RL Super Skink Sliders, 235/85R16 MTR, Air Flow Snorkel, DTT, 4.10 gears, Frankenlift II, Katskin leather, JL Audio stereo, Rosen video.

Thank you for the welcome, I just got my response from the owner of rro. He responded by saying: We always find it funny when our paths cross with JBA arms since we get bunches of emails from owners of those kits who complain about contact issues as well. We've actually compared the kits side by side and they are identical in length and position. Do this with your friend's Jeep... you'll see it is the case. We get requests all the time form JBA owners looking for solutions to problems. And MOPAR had their own engineers compare the control arms when they were researching for their project and show vehicles. Their engineers determined ours were superior. The MOPAR engineers didn't even consider it close... And continues saying once my lift settles (the lift I put on almost two years ago ) there will be no contact issue. Funny because the other jeep in question got lifted last week haha. Looks like this will be a drawn out process...

Funny thing is RRO directly copied the JBA's,but used lesser quaility materials (thinner tubes,poly bushings).I can tell you from see both the JBA's are far better built with better parts.

Oh and there has never been a MOPAR show Jeep Liberty(KK or KJ) that has ever had either the JBA's or RRO's arms installed,they build there own stuff in-house for the Liberty's.

Out of morbid curiosity...What's the current tally of "Imagined" sales of the RRO IA's?

didn't they tell one of our members that they had sold literally THOUSANDS of them about 6 months ago lol...

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03 Renegade (Black)
177k miles 3.7L gas - 45RFE
Command Trac / 4.10s
Lift: ft. 790+ rr. JBA4+
The last of the TrailReady Front&Rear Bumpers and TR Rock Rails
Jarhead Offroad light covers
31x10.5R15 RedLetter Grabbers on Blackrock Dunes
L.O.S.T #KD098632

That's what had been stated , "literally thousands"
All you have to do is go to most any 4 wheel drive forum and type in RRO complaints and you'll have more than enough to read for days. They have ripped off so many things from others, bad mouthed other companies, took credit for building peoples rigs when all they did was get a picture off of a website. I would say 95% of their business is from new people to the market and have no idea, then they buy something and the fun begins

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MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited

Sighhhh. One of the few lessons in life I didnt learn the hard way.

Thanks LOST

Now where are my JBAs!

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Mike Smith
06 KJ Sport - PA - ONSFARI

OME 926/948 w/ OME Shocks, 3/8 Boiler, 1" LTT, a bit of Clevis lift
MOPAR Skids, Custom trans skid
Valley Roof Basket with Extension (when required), Homemade fence post crossbars with Thule system to compliment
Mastercraft A\T Something or another...

I know of 6 people buying them,1 broke them,and all others returned them(or sold them) and bought JBA's.

This oughta liven things up a little. The reply from rro:
There is more that goes into a control arm than the position of it from the spring, the length. The bushing system we use is superior, as well as the ball joints. The position of the ball joint is an issue as well which can help or harm alignment and relieve tension on the ball joint, or add tension. And we've replaced a number of the JBA arms whose welds have broken and the manufacturer didn't stand behind them. So their customers came to us for help. I didn't indicate the quality was the same, just the location of the ball joint from the springs. Hope that makes sense. I'm trying not to be rude about anything. We've just examined everything in the marketplace for the Liberty inside and out since we really are known around the world as THE source for them, although a couple other shops in the USA definitely have a cheering squad on some chat forums.The length of the arms really is the same though, which means the clearance form the arm to the spring. If you have a buddy with the JBA arms, take a measurement. The length will be the same.

Not sure how to get through to this guy his product sucks