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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:38 am 
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I wanted the wife to get a Jeep unlimited. But she wanted a girly Jeep so that's why she bought the KK. FML :5SHOTS:

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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:08 pm 
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Great thread idea....


Since I'd only owned street cars built for street performance, when I decided I wanted to get into off-roading, I started looking into 4x4 options more than 1.5 years before I wound up ordering my KK. I knew I needed a 4x4 that would be versatile for daily driving for work (in dress clothes), hauling my niece, nephew and friends, hauling cargo for various remodeling projects, etc. but didn't want some gigantic beast or pick-up.

I considered:
    1. Jeep KJ Liberty - Really liked the off-road mods I found on LOST in 2007 (and thought it had well-suited versatility for my needs) but then found out the Liberty was being (partly) redesigned for 2008 and I liked some of the feature refinements it was going to include and the boxier look, including with a little more room. Of course, I had no idea it would take so long to get the KK some serious off-road aftermarket product options like bumpers.
    2. Hummer H3 - Loved the exterior styling and off-road capabilities even in stock form, but couldn't stand the interior (had them as rentals in Colorado a couple times) and they certainly seemed pricey versus other options, and seriously major gas hogs at that.
    3. Nissan Xterra - Liked the exterior rugged styling and available off-road aftermarket, but the interior and features available weren't sufficient for what I wanted for my street driving needs.
    4. Toyota Pathfinder - Nothing special for exterior styling, but having had them lots as rentals in Colorado, they seem well thought-out. Call me old-school, but couldn't get interested in a non-domestic name plate (yeah, I understand probably better than most how globalized our products and economies have become), especially for a "nothing special" vehicle.
    5. Jeep JK Wrangler - If I lived in, or adjacent to, the Rocky Mountains, I would've bought this to support mountain adventures every possible weekend. Living in Kansas City where urban needs dictate my 4x4's requirements most of the time, the JK had too spartan an interior and insufficient ability to haul cargo inside.
    6. Toyota FJ - Didn't look too close at as, besides the non-domestic nameplate, couldn't get into the "fat turtle" exterior styling. I did note the aftermarket products available for it though.

For me, the KK is a great balance of:
    A. Available off-road capability (when properly equipped) with good streetability.
    B. Ability to haul inside cargo (via fold-flat rear seatback and fold-flat front passenger seat), plus ability to tow 5,000 lbs (when properly equipped).
    C. Nice interior features available, which go well with my work attire (pesky tie, dress shirt, etc.) or when going out.
    D. Good ability to haul my niece and nephew, and a couple adults.
    E. More rugged appearance than most, but not all, other 4x4 or AWD "SUVs" out there.
    F. Loved the Jeep enthusiast community and Jeep being a domestic nameplate with a proud tradition.
    G. Price point didn't seem out of whack versus others.

Thus I decdided in 2008 I was going to get the KK Liberty, but I've never been a fan of buying the first production year of any vehicle so I held out and custom ordered my 2009 KK. I've been real pleased with my KK and my decision. The only thing that hasn't turned out as I had thought was given the off-road armor and product options I saw in 2007 that were available for the KJ Liberty, I was thinking they'd be available for the KK Liberty sooner. Combination of several factors, including horrible timing versus the downturn in the U.S. economy, the release of JK Unlimited 4-door, etc.(see here for more discussion). That's why I've been forced into taking matters into my own hands and developing KK Off-Road Armor myself.
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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:47 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:24 pm 
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04 Nissan Titan - Gas would've been murdering me.
08 Toyota Tacoma - Interior = :|
09 GMC Sierra - Loved the truck, but too pricey, and gas sucks.

...so I just took my mom's KK lol.

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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:24 pm 
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04 Nissan Titan - Gas would've been murdering me.
08 Toyota Tacoma - Interior = :|
09 GMC Sierra - Loved the truck, but too pricey, and gas sucks.

...so I just took my mom's KK lol.

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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:50 pm 
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Seriously looked at both the two door Rubicon and the FJ.

Decided on the Liberty over the Rubicon mainly for the towing and Selectrac. I know a lot of people don't like it, but in a state where there is snow on the road for literally eight months out of the year, I really wanted the AWD. I see people towing with Wranglers, but everyone one who has tells me it's a bad idea.

I really liked the capability of the FJ, but it was too big, too ugly and had too many blind spots. I'm happy I didn't go with it now considering all the ATV trails I've been able to go down in my KK. I'm not saying the FJ wouldn't have made it down the ATV trails, I'm just saying it would have made it down them in more of a snowplow way than a nimble way.

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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:03 pm 
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Price had a lot to do with mine...

I had a 4x2 Toyota Tacoma before this and I wanted something with 4x4 for the winter and some lower payments. I picked up a 2008 Liberty with 50k miles for $12,500 so I made out with a great deal.

I was also considering the XTerra but they held their value too well and figured I'd just go with a newer vehicle.

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 Post subject: Re: What other vehicles did you consider before buying a KK?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:16 am 
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Loving the thread! Funny most of us looked at the same vehicles.

While I was over seas I decided that I wanted a suv...I drove a pt cruiser ( my first car..I was 17 when I bought it and a bit of a hippie..thank god things change) I first wanted an explorer and quickly realized they were pricey. So I decided that the escape was the suv for me! I came home and after about two weeks my, then fiancé and now wifey, went out car looking. Just before I came home she had bought a dodge journey. (this is a hell of a mommy mobil if any one is looking for a wife vehicle, but I'd suggest getting the awd version) so she was a " vet " of the car buying process. Me on the other hand...I was happy to be having conversations with Americans again so would believe what ever they said. Almost got swindled into a decent escape but gave it a no go after I learned that it had some weirdo 4wd that decided on it's own when to turn on...not what I wanted at all. So we web else where....after looking at a mess of dealerships. A particularly gressy sales man suggested the Patriot, the name was awesome and hell, it's a jeep right! Not so much.. After pricing it of at several dealers and finding a salesman who wasnt a sex offender in a past life, the liberty was suggested to me. I took a test drive and have been loving every moment behind the wheel since!

My only real complaint is the "oh doo doo" handle on the passenger side hits my wife's knees a bit when were wheeling..I suppose it's the vehicle reminding her to hold on..but she doesn't like it.

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