Timing belt replacement - South

lgoodbar · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2011 3:49 pm

I just turned over 100,000 miles and looking for someone the timing belt / water pump / thermostat replacement in the southern US. I'm in Oxford, Mississippi, about 60 miles south of Memphis, Tennessee. LOST members prefered (will compensate!) and I'll help as much as needed. I can travel as far as St. Louis, Atlanta, or New Orleans areas. Haven't bought everything yet but will soon. Thanks!

geordi · **Posted:** Wed May 04, 2011 12:37 am

I'm in Savannah if you fancy a trip to the beach, and I just did mine recently.

lgoodbar · **Posted:** Thu May 05, 2011 8:26 am

geordi wrote:

I'm in Savannah if you fancy a trip to the beach, and I just did mine recently.

PM sent. Thanks Geordi!

cerich · **Posted:** Thu May 05, 2011 9:46 am

hmmm...you guys wanna make it a timing belt party?

papaindigo · **Posted:** Thu May 05, 2011 10:38 am

Now that's an interesting thought. I'm a long way from needing it done but helping out would be most educational, might give me the nerve to do it myself when the time comes, and I'm not that far away. Drop me a PM or email if plans come together and an extra set of semi-skilled hands would be of any use.

lgoodbar · **Posted:** Thu May 05, 2011 10:53 am

Sounds good to me. I'm thinking sometime in June for the trip.

geordi · **Posted:** Thu May 05, 2011 11:54 am

Sounds like a party, and Savannah is well known for the plethora of... "refreshments" available. I have the full set of Miller tools, the only thing I dont have is experience pulling the water pump. I didnt mess with mine.

papaindigo · **Posted:** Thu May 05, 2011 4:03 pm

As I'm recently retired (35 years was long enough) I can make anytime in June work just let me know when and where and what to bring in addition to willing hands. I'd be inclined to replace the water pump once you are in that far although there has been some chat, don't know if it has been confirmed, to the effect that the water pump service life is like 200,000m. I don't recall anyone commenting on a water pump failure for that matter.

lgoodbar · **Posted:** Fri May 06, 2011 9:47 am

I have parts ordered and am waiting for my work calendar to settle down. Have work related travel coming up, still in the planning stages.

cerich · **Posted:** Sat May 07, 2011 8:16 am

looks like time to order the parts!

geordi · **Posted:** Sat May 07, 2011 12:43 pm

Just an FYI, I found the cheapest price on the belt from Amazon - IIRC, it was like $70, for a genuine GATES brand.

Not that I'm encouraging anyone to follow in my own insanity, but I didn't change the pulleys or the tensioner either. Keith at GDE was telling me that he believes the tensioner spring is not something that will wear out, but that it would be the bearings. The indication was *if* they started ejecting grease, then it would be time to replace. Looking at all of my pulleys and the tensioner, they all moved smooth and solid, no grease or degradation present at all.

In another thread (a very long one on timing, IIRC) PATRACY did some great research on those idler pulleys and discovered that the standard accessory pulley from a dodge truck (sorry, he didn't say which year / model) had the SAME outer diameter of the pulley, and same shaft diameter... And that they were metal instead of the plastic of our pulleys. Even better... They were like $15, instead of the $50 of the plastic pulleys. If you want to explore that route, contact PaTracy for more info.

Knowing my engine the way I do, I opted to listen for a pulley starting to howl as an indication of its impending bearing failure... Rather than give up on perfectly good parts. Obviously, I'm capable of digging back into the engine with the tools to replace these if needed. For anyone else... YMMV.

cerich · **Posted:** Sun May 08, 2011 8:08 pm

good info on the tensioners. Metal sounds like a better idea than plastic.. worth instigating

lgoodbar · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 8:27 pm

I got my parts today!

Tentatively, how does Saturday June 18 sound? I can't confirm the date yet, still finalizing work travel.

lgoodbar · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 8:27 pm

I got my parts today!

Tentatively, how does Saturday June 18 sound? I can't confirm the date yet, still finalizing work travel.

racertracer · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 9:33 pm

I got the Oem Parts in and here are the Manufactures names and part numbers stamped on the parts. In case you all want to locate them on your own and try to find them for less.
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OEM Timing belt :
"Goodyear 05142579AA "
"DO NOT CRIMP 674"
"280S8M 1760"
"18800698 made in Slovenia 05/24/10"
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OEM Tensioner assembly:

"LITENS" "35612023F" "VM" MADE IN CANADA
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OEM IDLER PULLEY

"05142573AA"
"NTN CANADA 6303LHAX"
"822240310" "206123"
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OEM WATER PUMP

5142985AA VM

geordi · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 10:19 pm

Raf, you gonna drive down here for this too?

If you want the 18th, that sounds OK by me at the moment... But what are ya all getting me since thats my birthday? :SOMBRERO:

Fair warning - I have lots of space b/c of where I live, but all that space is outdoors. If the weather doesn't play nice, we might be doing them one at a time under a 10x10 canopy.

racertracer · **Posted:** Wed May 18, 2011 11:31 pm

Jim, As for your birthday gift, we were wondering if this wonderful energy friendly vehicle would fit in your space?

I don't know about driving down there, I don't think my old bones can withstand the long drive anymore.

I once drove my wrangler from CT to Panama Beach FL and back again and I swore that I would never do it again, even though I had a blast.

When are you going to be up in NYC area again?

geordi · **Posted:** Thu May 19, 2011 12:42 am

Very funny. My sister would be ecstatic about that, as she calls them "Eco-friendly cars" and wants to get one when she gets a 2-bedroom ground floor on Central Park West. One bedroom for her, the second as a lovely box stall.

Yea, the rest of my family thinks she's nuts too. Besides, Savannah is full of those carriage things, clogging up the already bad traffic. That, and the emissions are too polluting for my taste anyway. :ROTFL:

I don't know when I'm back in The City... Possibly this fall if I get stuck moving my sister's crap up there after she graduates. I'll let you know.

papaindigo · **Posted:** Thu May 19, 2011 10:07 am

June 18th works for me as spectator/junior assistant trying to learn how for the future.

geordi - I assume you have a compressor, although I can borrow a pancake one if need be. If so I'm considering purchasing the Lisle Pneumatic Fan Clutch removal tool to bring to the party unless you already have one. It looks like this makes fan removal really simple, which would help those doing timing belts, and I could go ahead and install kap's fixed fan mod for which I already have the parts. I assume the fan shroud has to come out while doing the timing belt, if so is it worth considering doing the fan shroud mod posted at http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/sho ... hp?t=76201 (scroll way down for picture) while the shroud is out as it would sure make future serp belt and fan access easier. Drop me a PM or email.

geordi · **Posted:** Thu May 19, 2011 3:15 pm

I do have a compressor, as well as some basic impact socket wrenches. You are correct about the shroud needing to come out, due to a PHENOMENALLY bad design, you have to have elfin arms to get around the stupid shroud to remove the fan, and they BOTH have to come out at the same time.

I haven't returned my fan OR shroud to the engine bay since that job, and have not seen my temp gauge rise above dead center either. I'd be happy to talk at length about that and that shroud mod (which I also can support for those inclined) when everyone is here.

I had an idea about the fan removal from one of the previous threads about the timing job, but if there is a special tool that would make it happen, I'm all for that too if you want to bring it.

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